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NEW INFORMATION: Two Killed in Interstate 68 Accident
Posted Sunday, July 5, 2009 ; 01:59 PM | View Comments | Post Comment
Updated Monday, July 6, 2009; 12:58 PM


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The accident shut down I-68 Sunday afternoon.

By Macall Allen
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MORGANTOWN -- A multi-vehicle accident killed two people, injured another and shutdown Interstate 68 on Sunday afternoon.

It happened just before 2:00 p.m., in the westbound lanes between the Pierpont and Cheat Lake exits, in Monongalia County.

Two motorcycles and a 1995 GMC Jimmy SUV were involved.

Samuel Flowers of Weston, the driver of the Jimmy, was heading east on I-68, when he made an illegal U-turn in an emergency pull-off and drove into the path of a motorcycle heading west, state police say.

Bruce Van Fossen, 49 of Sidney, Oh. was riding a 2007 Harley Davidson. He and his passenger, Babara Ann Elliston, 48 of Anna, Oh., were killed.

Peter Vaubel of Botkins, Oh. was also heading west on I-68, on a 1997 Honda motorcycle.

He crashed as a result of the collision in front of him, according to troopers.

Vaubel was taken to Ruby Memorial Hospital, where he is listed in serious condition.

State police are investigating the accident and say charges are pending.

The interstate was shut down for than an hour, backing up traffic for miles.

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I-68 traffic back-up


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minerva
7/26/10 at 2:04 PM
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i worked for bruce for a few years and he was the greatest guy i ever met. he was wonderful, always on the go n gettin his buisness done. he helped me n so many ways and it's so sad that someone so great had to go like that. i lost my father just a couple months later to a motorcycle accident. it was the hardest thing i have ever went through in life but life goes on. oct. 6th will be a year and it still seems like it was yesterday. i hope that all of bruces family knows that he was loved very much by everyone and now him and my father are in a better place!
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Friend
7/6/10 at 10:26 AM
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Yesterday was the Final Good Bye to Bruce, so many tears fell! They say time heals all things, but it seems like Bruce and Barb were taken away yesterday and not a year ago. All the pain is still so fresh! Miss ya Bruce and Barb!
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Jamie
5/26/10 at 12:29 PM
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I did some digging and know many of you want to know what Sam got for the other charges in Upschur County he was up for. This is from an editor of a paper in West Virginia "Flowers was sentenced to 4 years in prison for the charge of wanton endangerment and 1 year for battery. To run concurrent." These charges should be served after the two years for killing Bruce and Barb.

I think something is wrong with the law. Sam gets 2 years for killing 2 people, Nothing for Injuring and Nearly Killing Pete. He gets 4 years for endangering his 2 children and 2 sheriff deputies and 1 year for beating on his wife. He gets a year for each incident, but the fact the other 5 people can still have a life and go on. Something needs to change and stricter laws should be enforced!

Susan, I know the feeling. I can't believe the year anniversary is approaching so quickly. I know we all need to get together and do something to honor Bruce and Barb, two great people that were taken from us way too soon!

Forever in our hearts and on our Minds - Love ya Bruce & Barb!
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Susan
5/24/10 at 10:26 PM
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I realized today that we are just six weeks shy of the first anniversary of the most tragic day I have experienced in my life. It doesn't seem possible. The memories of what I saw and heard that day are still so painful. I never knew anything could hurt so much. I thank God for all the good memories. Bruce was a unique individual with a love for life and adventure. I miss you, Bruce. I would just love to get an early morning phone call just to hear you say "WHATTTTTTT'S UPPPPPP" or maybe you'd say "I'll call you back in 5 minutes" but I don't hear from you for three days. (is this starting to sound familiar to anyone?) I am still trying to come to terms with the events of that day. So many times I still think it can't be real. I know life goes on but it will never be the same. I MISS YOU MY FRIEND.
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MIKE EVERETT
4/19/10 at 8:15 PM
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WOW what real big people you all are lets see we have unknowns,we have people im guessing knew bruce and was a part of his life,just to flip there lips about him and his family.well let me say this i did know him very well i know his family if you cant keep from saying things to hurt people why are you here .this is for bruce and barb and the people that were effected by this unpunished act.why must you try to drag the man down,honestly are your lives that miserable that you have to put a man down that lived his life,loved his family and was taken from all of us way too soon.his family deb,brian,krissy,carrie are some of kindest people ive ever known .was bruce perfect NO are we all perfectNO but he helped raise these kids there whole life and he and deb did great this whole family means the world to me so if there is anything that needs to be said about them, or bruce and you feel you need to be nasty or hurtfull JUST SHUT THE HELL UP ohhhhh and by the way my name is on this post and im not a hard man to find if youd like to flip your lips about somone,to somone who will defend them then look me up or SHUT THE HELL UP . rest in peace bruce love ya bro
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Jamie
3/30/10 at 4:09 PM
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March 19th was an extremely hard day for all the families and friends involved. We had to relive July 5th, that will be a day in my life I will not forget the sights, the sounds and the extreme heartache. Nothing has been the same since that afternoon, everyone's life has changed. No one will ever be able to replace what we all lost on July 5th. Some of us lost a close Family Member and some of us lost great friends! Bruce and Barb we love and Miss you today and everyday!

I do not feel that one year in jail will satisfy the life of another human being. I believe West Virginia needs to have much tougher traffic laws, but we can not change that in this case. I think because of Sam's carelessness and the other felonies, he will spend quite a bit of time in prison.
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Reading and Watching
3/28/10 at 10:18 AM
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I agree with Deann!!!
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Deann
3/26/10 at 11:18 AM
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As I have said before, if you dont like what is being posted, dont come here and participate. Its that simple. And as John would say, "Period!"

It is time to honor those passed with good memories and positive acts. Those who have caused hurt for Bruce and Bard live in their hell by feeling the guilt and will one day have to answer to Our God themselves. Again, its that simple.
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eye full
3/23/10 at 12:58 AM
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Seems to me a lot of you need to leave this woman ( tmw) alone. I have read all the comments posted by her previously and never once seen her say anything negative about anyone. Seems to me she had only tried to express her sympathy for the families and persons involved in this article. Incase all of you "unknowns" have forgotten your morals here are a few definitions for you.**** Rudeness- (also called impudence or effrontery) is the disrespect and failure to behave within the context of a society or a group of people's social laws or etiquette.These laws have already unspokenly been established as the essential boundaries of normally accepted behaviour. To be unable or unwilling to align one's behaviour with these laws known to the general population of what is socially acceptable is to be rude. pester somebody- to make somebody the victim of continual pestering or harassment confront and blame- to confront somebody with a charge of having done something illegal, wrong, or undesirable marriage- a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony, between two people who intend to live together as sexual and domestic partners. Now lets all be adults and act like it.
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unknown
3/22/10 at 11:34 PM
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hummm seam to me as if the person that everyone is trying to portray as a god fearing person had a few skeletons in their closet. seams to me in the Bible i read there is a versus about not committing adultery and not judging people and there seam to be so many of you doing it. why cant everyone have their own memories without tearing any one apart. and love one another like it says in the bible
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Keri Starkey
3/22/10 at 9:56 PM
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YOU People.. Shame on You!!!!!! No one cares about what any of you think. This page is about Keeping a link for Bruce and Barb in a positive reflection. Enough already! Not that it matters anymore.. but the people who know about Bruce and his life are the people who were in it the longest. To my knowledge, he knew you Tiffany and Stephanie the least.. So think about what you write before you start vomiting out your aggressions on here.
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unknown
3/22/10 at 9:46 PM
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TMW- I think by now you have realized that there is more than one "unknown"
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unknown
3/22/10 at 9:10 PM
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Please reread the comments that have been posted between you and I. I never mentioned divorce, daughter, or business in my comments. Clearly you feel guilty about something. I only asked you to refrain from comments. Never specified what comments. Sometimes a person opens up more when they feel guilty about something. If you reread what was accused of you, I think you will clearly see you were the one accusing and assuming more about yourself than anyone ever knew. As far as Slander, You did that to yourself. As far as name, did I ever say your last name? This is my last posting to you. Thank you for opening up, very interesting information.
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to the unknown
3/22/10 at 5:50 PM
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I had to debate on being the bigger person and walking away. But clearly I can see not all of us are mature enough to do that, and too cowardly to leave your name....You can make me out to be the bad person and Stephine too, but really, GROW UP! I am the bigger person, but I will not allow someone to badger me.I had nothing to do with the divorce. And the woman certainly had no problem letting the man spend thousands of dollars on a wedding before she handed him the papers. What was invested? Time maybe. The man was drained for everything he had by that same woman for years. Stolen? never. Only I know the truth about the events that happened between Bruce n I. I was made to look bad when he found another woman in his life just as he did to the ex wife. We all know there is a long history of his unfaithfulness. Buddying up to his daughter to get what? There is nothing there! I don't even work for the company anymore and still help, out of kindness. She only turned her back to family, when family started taking accounts from her, employees from her, and family who went in the house days after the accident and stole. And yes I have the proof of the dishonesty of family I recorded it in a company meeting held by the man who stole it. I have said nothing negative about anyone through this site throughout the whole ordeal. Until someone threw my name out there and slandered it. Wait....By using my name, isn't that defamation of character and slander. hmmmm. I have not named anyone that I have had differences with only stated situations. I guess you are childish enough to use a website to talk about others negatively! Sooo from here on out perhaps you should have some respect for the man and refrain from your hateful comments. If you have enough gull to throw my name out there and say things that aren't true, then come forward and show yourself, state your name. then we can hash this out one on one instead of you disrespecting a deceased mans dignity through a website that is intended for comments about the accident, the trial, and prayers for the family.
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unknown
3/22/10 at 1:46 PM
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TMW-I tried to hold back commenting on your statements but, really, you have a lot of nerve saying his ex-wife turned her back on him and still feels she is entitled. She made a life with him for 20+ years and left when she knew about you. No matter how you try to justify it, you knew he was married and that makes you the one who was in the wrong. His ex-wife is entitled to benefits from the estate because she also invested in it. What did you think she should do when she found out about you, just sit there and ignore it. I also found it interesting that you are throwing Bible versus around as if you if are some kind of saint. And, honey, a saint you ain't. What do you know about the dynamics of a marriage? Marital relationships take a lot of work from both parties. You have not been persecuted unjustly, you brought all of it on yourself when you stole from the person who gave you everything and you turned your back on him. And, now that he's gone you are buddying up to his daughter and still trying to get whatever you can out of him and then patting yourself on the back like you are the only one who is standing by Stephanie. The truth is Stephanie shut out everyone she thought might get a dime from his estate so that it would all be for her. Everyone sees the situation and you for exactly what you are.
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Unknown
3/20/10 at 2:01 PM
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TMW We know you a lot better than you obviously know. At this point you are just making yourself look even worse. You really never knew his true feelings about people and you otherwise you never would have posted that. I am sorry you are still in the dark. I wish you the best of luck.
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TMW
3/20/10 at 10:33 AM
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To whom it may concern; I did not attend the trial because I chose to help Bruce's daughter by covering her work so that she could be there. Everyone turned their back on her. I lost my father when I was 8 a man I never knew, and then lost my second father just a month after Bruce, and although many of you shunned her it is still her father, her blood. I will honor your request to whom is unamed but named myself, only after I say my peace. There is only one person I know who is gaining monetarily from Bruce and that person walked out of his life a few years ago, and turned her back on him, but feels she is still entitled. I have been persecuted and judge through this whole ordeal. I just want to say that those of you who have done so may want to study your versus before you cast judgement. Acts 10:42; Luke 6:27,35; Matthew 5:44. My persecution has been unfair and for what?, one's opinion of someone they barely know.
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unknown
3/20/10 at 12:10 AM
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Sitting in the court room was the hardest thing I had to witness throughout this whole ordeal. Looking at a man's face who had no remorse for killing two wonderful people, was a very painful experience. Those of you who truly loved Bruce and Barb would understand how unfair it was to have their lives taken by someone who has yet to say to any of us "I am very sorry". TMW aka Tiffany...please don't talk about judging anymore. If you care like you have stated why weren't you at the sentencing today. You used that same person you talk so dearly about for your own personal gain monetarily. Please refrain from your comments anymore, if you really cared about him and his family you will honor this request.
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TMW
3/19/10 at 7:38 AM
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Today is the day we find out if Flowers gets a smack on the hand or what he deserves. It will be very hard for all those who will be there to look at the man that took the lives of two good people. But we all must remember.....You don't have to like someone, or talk to them, but we must find forgiveness no matter how hard it may be. God will be the higher judge when the time comes. Love Ya Bruce!
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rtk
2/10/10 at 5:12 PM
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What a sad day today was. Today was the day Bruce's life was sold to the highest bidder.

Thank you to all of his friends that were there to support my brothers and I.

Just have to remember, no one can put up for sale the memories we hold deep in our hearts.

He had the last laugh today, with the weather.

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rtk
2/4/10 at 12:40 PM
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Today is February 4, 2010, Today is also the day we should be celebrating Bruce's 50th birthday with him.

So sometime today, grab a cold beer or your beverage of choice and toast our Brother's 50th. He would want us to! Those of you who know Bruce, know that his celebrating would have started at the crack of dawn this morning and continued throughout the weekend.

Forever in my Heart, Forever Loved, Forever Missed....

Happy Birthday Brother

Until we meet again.
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Friend
2/4/10 at 8:54 AM
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Today would have been Bruce's big day. I know if you were here we would be sharing a shot of Patrone tonight so I will have a shot in honor of your day and I'll even chase it with pickle juice, even though I think there is something just not right about that..LOL. I miss you, Bruce. You are my friend, in my heart, yesterday, today, tomorrow and forever.
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Friend
1/30/10 at 12:04 PM
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So good to see everyone come out Thursday night for our Winter Get Together with all the friends we ride with. We still miss Bruce and Barb like crazy, Bruce would have been the one that called everyone and set that up. We just miss both of their shining faces and their big hearts! Love you Guys!
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unknown
1/15/10 at 9:11 PM
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January 14, 2010 Driver in deadly W.Va. wreck pleads no contest
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) - A Weston man who police say caused a crash that killed two motorcyclists last July has pleaded no contest to negligent homicide.

Forty-six-year-old Samuel Lee Flowers will be sentenced March 19 in Monongalia (mon uhn GALE' yuh) County Magistrate Court, where he faces up to a year in jail for each death.

Prosecutors say he could also be fined for crossing the median while making an illegal U-turn on Interstate 68 near Morgantown.

State Police say Flowers lost control and drove into the path of a group of motorcyclists.

Flowers was in the North Central Regional Jail on Thursday, where he's awaiting trial on unrelated charges stemming from a September domestic dispute in Upshur County
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unknown
1/15/10 at 8:54 PM
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the court case against Mr Flowers was due to the wreck not the other charges and he will be back in court to find what his time will be on march 19.
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Susan
1/15/10 at 2:50 PM
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John was able to be in West Virginia this week and the hearing was actually held on Monday morning and was related to the domestic violence chages Sam Flowers is being held for in another county. John did get to speak with the prosecutor for the accident and said they are still working on our case for more charges, including charges for Pete. John was also able to meet Laveda and William, a mom and her son who were right behind us on the highway and saw the entire scene. They have been keeping an eye on the crosses John put up at the accident scene for Bruce and Barb. He also got to speak to the owner of the Harley dealership in Morgantown who told him they our representing us by writing to the paper and contacing the prosecutor, etc. to do everything they can to make sure Sam is charged with everything possible. We have still been very touched by folks we met through that tragic event who have become friends.

I too miss Bruce so much. Although, I thank God for the memories, sometimes even the good memories are painful because they make me realize how much I miss everything about him, even the annoying stuff. He truly was one of a kind and one of my best friends.
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TMW
1/14/10 at 2:18 PM
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I am really shocked at what Mr. Flowers is not being charged with. Not only did he cross that median illegally, but wasn't he drinking also. Unless they can show proof that his brakes had malfunctioned i wouldn't settle. I miss Bruce soooo much. The holidays, the OSU games, the weekend get aways........Things sure are different. I look through pictures and think about the fun times we had and it just hurts that he is not here. Should Mr.Flowers get off easy with only a year i'd make it his worst year ever. He should be in a cell with no privelages, and be made to watch videos of bruce and barb, their family and friends, so that he would realize what he has done and what he has taken from all of us.
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JL
1/12/10 at 10:33 PM
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TK - Please let all of us Know when you hear anything tomorrow, I know is has been on my mind for a long time. Thanks

Know we will all be with you guys as you face another very hard day in your life. Even if it is not in person, we are all there and we all share the love and the loss of Bruce and Barb. We miss them everyday!
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tk
1/5/10 at 11:16 AM
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Wow, it's so hard to believe 6 months have now passed. The Holidays were tough as well as my birthday, as Bruce and I spent that together last year. I really miss him.

They say time will heal, however I'm not sure in this case.

Thinking of my little brother and knowing he is in a better place, free of pain.....
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Missing You
12/23/09 at 11:13 PM
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I have found my heart being especially heavy this week. I just miss my friend. Even 5 months after the accident that stole my friend, I still find comfort coming to this website. The thoughts and memories are comforting. I miss you my friend.
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Merry Christmas
12/18/09 at 2:19 PM
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This is a very hard time because this holiday season will have a huge void for Bruce & Barb's family and friends. All of you are in my thoughts. I miss Bruce so much. The tears seem endless. The memories are a source of comfort. Merry Christmas to all of you.
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mike everett
12/13/09 at 11:02 AM
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merry x-mas bruce miss you finally made it to brians over thanksgiving had a great time wish u could have been there in my thoughts forever
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tk
12/9/09 at 8:55 PM
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It's tough, especially this time of the year. I miss Bruce and Barb tremendously. Didn't think it would hit this hard.

The trial (pre trial) is scheduled for January 13, 2010. My brothers, sisters and I will be making the trip over. We will keep this site updated with anything we find out.

We must keep our Faith Strong now, more than ever and count on each other to get through the Christmas Season.
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Tracy
12/9/09 at 12:14 PM
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I know how you feel, Dana. It is so hard to come to work everyday & not see or talk to her. If anyone knows what is going on with the trial, please let us know. Thanks! Rest In Peace, Barbie. . . .
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Dana
12/8/09 at 11:16 PM
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I miss you Barb. There are moments every day when I think - "Wow, she would love for me to call her and tell her all about this! I can't wait to tell her!" I miss my friend - my goofy, thoughtful and beautiful friend. I miss her smile and her laugh. My heart hurts deeply.
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stretch
11/21/09 at 3:48 AM
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I will raise my glass to that!!! Will always be in my daily thoughts.... I miss you Bruce.
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tk
11/20/09 at 1:52 PM
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Tomorrow let's dedicate the OSU/Michigan game to Bruce. He would be hosting a party for the game, but this year he'll need root from above!

GO BUCKS! We miss you!
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tk
11/4/09 at 11:26 AM
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The pre-trial for Samual Flowers has been postponed by Mr. Flowers attorney. Once it is rescheduled we will be notified.

The charges are a misdemeanor, up to one year in jail and a fine.

Hard to believe tomorrow will be 4 months since the death of our brother. We are still grieving and celebrating his life in many ways!

God Speed to Bruce and Barb! We miss you.
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tk
11/2/09 at 10:11 AM
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lv, Thank you for the update on the trial. I will be there along with my brothers. I understand it is at 9:30 am. I'm anxious to see how this plays out. I'll update this blog once I'm back to my room after the trial. Stay tuned.
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lv
11/2/09 at 9:47 AM
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tk, there will be a trial for mr flowers held on november 5th
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Aching heart
10/17/09 at 9:03 PM
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I continue to come to this site to keep in touch with those who are still mournng the loss of our friends. My heart aches as much today as it did the last day I was with my friend. Since that day I have thought many times how never and forever kinda mean the same thing. Like I'm never going to see his silly grin...forever.; I'm never going to see his name on my caller ID...forever; I'm never going to get the call asking me to work all weekend...forever; I'm never going to have another disagreement with him...forever; I'm never going to have all the fun and laughs with Bruce that I cherish so much now...forever. Those thoughts make my heart truly ache. I miss him in so many ways. I know I'm not alone. Tomorrow at 1:30 pm I know I will again think about that Sunday at 1:30 pm and how that moment in time changed my life.

I too am extremely angry that Mr. Flowers charges are not severe enough for the crime he committed. I cannot make any sense out of all of this.

Bruce, I miss you more every day.
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tk
10/13/09 at 11:50 AM
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Thanks for the information Jamie.....sad to know, Mr. Flowers will basically be free for killing my brother and Barb.

I would ask, if anyone knows; when and if there will be a trial to let us know as I will be in the court room for the trial. I want to see who killed my brother, simply by being irresponsible. I have a few words to share on behalf of my siblings and Bruces and Barb's friends.

I will be drive to Morgantown soon, as my son and Daughter in Law recently passed through and told me they simply can't understand why Mr. Flowers couldn't have driven to the next exit and turned around there.

Many lives are a mess due to one persons actions, many hearts ache.

I so miss my brother.....
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Jamie
10/13/09 at 11:16 AM
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WEST VIRGINIA CODE §17C-5-1. Negligent homicide; penalties. (a) When the death of any person ensues within one year as a proximate result of injury received by the driving of any vehicle anywhere in this state in reckless disregard of the safety of others, the person so operating such vehicle shall be guilty of negligent homicide. (b) Any person convicted of negligent homicide shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than one year or by fine of not less than one hundred dollars nor more than one thousand dollars, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

(c) The commissioner shall revoke the license or permit to drive and any nonresident operating privilege of any person convicted of negligent homicide.

Crossing the Median - sounds like a slap on the wrist/ fine.

Anyone with more knowledge of the West Virginia law please contact us. Jamielenhart73@hotmail.com. These charges are not near harsh enough for the "crime" that Mr. Sam Flowers committed. One year in prison for taking someone's life. Sounds like they do not even have to give Mr. Flowers a year in prison, could just be a fine.

I am extremely upset by this!
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lee
10/7/09 at 6:54 AM
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I agree CW, he is not getting charged even remotely feirce enough ...and what charges will be made on my dads behalf ? there are only two counts of neglegent homicide...... my dad was nearly KILLED! i dont think crossing the median (whatever that is) is going to cover that . I can only hope this is typical blog rumor , and hope somebody can give me the real facts .
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Valerie
10/1/09 at 2:51 PM
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FLOWER FAMILY I AGREE WITH I AM A BIKER TOO GET OUT THERE TO THE FAMILY OF BRUCE & BARB TELL THEM THAT YOU ARE SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPENED. SUPPORT THE BIKERS

help raise awareness of the fact that bikers are out there on the road and everyone needs to look for them. We also need to work together to ensure that the laws are enforced on those who chose to be irresponsible while behind the wheel. We need to ensure that if you kill a biker you go to jail. TO ALL OF THE OHIO BIKERS I THINK OF ALL YOU ALL TIME AND PRAY THAT PETE WILL RECOVER SOON. BRUCE & BARB YOU WILL ALWAYS BE IN MY HEART YOU ARE TWO BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE THAT WERE TAKE TOO SOON...
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CW
10/1/09 at 12:36 PM
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Are they nuts, the charges,two counts of negligent homicide and one count of crossing the median, is only a misdemeanor!!! Mr. Flowers, you killed my brother and friend!!!. I feel like you are only getting a "slap on the hands".
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I am a biker too
9/30/09 at 10:51 AM
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In my opionion, it is truely selfish of Mr. Flowers family to get on here and ask anyone to feel "sorry" for them and to put themselves in their shoes. Mr. Flowers made a decision that day to be careless and he did not think about anyone but himself. He did not think of his family, (especially not his children), the other people on the road...no one but himself. Now because he made a decision to pull out in front of a group of bikers and not even for one second consider the consequences, we are to feel sorry for him and his family....I don't think so. His family has no idea what the families of those that died and were with those that died that day are going through. The very least we could expect from the Flowers family is all the love, support and prayers they could possibly muster for the innocent victims of their brother, son, and father's actions that day. They should be on here making no excuses for him and what he has done and they as a family should be taking care of his children to ensure their safety from this clearly selfish unstable man. Can his family still love him, of course they can, but they should love him by getting him the help he needs, being forever sorry for the pain he has caused others and trying to help the victims. Not by trying to get sympathy and understanding from the victims....I'm sorry but what the Flowers family is going through is not even close to what these other families are going through. The Flowers family should be the first ones who want Sam to be held accountable and responsible for his actions. Was he an SOB that day...yes he was...has his behavior since then proven that he is selfish and only thinking of himself...yes it has. Everyone is free to make their own decisions, but once those decisions are made, we must live with the consequences and pay for the mistakes we make. No excuses.....Mr. Flowers admit to what you did that day, give the victims some piece of mind by explaining to them what happened (no lies, no excuses) ask for their forgiveness, pray to God that he help your family live with your actions of that day, pray for the families of the victims, get the help you need, pay the consequences from your actions, and then spend everyday of the rest of your life being the best person you can be. Find some way to turn this tradgedy into something positive by doing something with your life to help others. Your first step should be setting down with these families and humbly admitting to what you did that day and asking them what you can do to help them. Not your family asking them to feel sorry for you or your family. Your family should have been the first ones to offer some sort of comfort and help to these poor people. The Flowers family needs to stop feeling sorry for themselves and get off their butts and reach out to the true victims of this crime....and I do mean crime. The Flowers family is not responsible for the actions of Sam that day, but they are responsible for their own actions on this website and from what I've read their actions are pitiful. The only thing everyone needs to hear from the Flowers family is "we are so sorry, and this is what we are doing to ensure Sam never does this again".

To the victims: I am truely sorry for the pain you are experiencing everyday. I did not know anyone involved, but I also ride and every single time I get on my bike I think about Bruce and Barb and I pray that their families pain will with time lessen. I know it will never go away. I also pray that Mr. Flowers will be punished for what he did, but also that Mr. Flowers will turn his life around and become a better person than what he was before this happened. The first step to that is admitting what he did and realizing the extent of what his actions caused that day. The best thing I think everyone can do for the Bruce and Barb's that have gotten killed on a motorcycle is try to help raise awareness of the fact that bikers are out there on the road and everyone needs to look for them. We also need to work together to ensure that the laws are enforced on those who chose to be irresponsible while behind the wheel. We need to ensure that if you kill a biker you go to jail.
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DeAnn
9/25/09 at 7:19 PM
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Well...the way I look at it is, there are alot of people who have been hurt by one man's decisions. July 5th and then just recently the gun incident.

Sounds as though Mr. Flowers has made decisions about how Bruce, Barb and Pete should live (for a lack of a better word) their lives and now how his children and loved ones should live their lives, not to mention everyone else that has been affected by his actions.

What if he had shot a deputy??? That would drag the families of those folks into this living hell also.......

He has put himself in the control seat by making those decisions.

He will hold all the cards until all of those involved can work through the issues they now carry because of his decisions ...Do you realize this could be a lifetime? I would be pissed too!

Mr. Flowers has serious issues he needs to deal with and it sounds as though jail will give him time to work on those issues without causing anyone else harm.....at least until he gets out again.

I agree that he is acting as an ass and I feel that his family--as supportive as they say they are should have taken control and gotten him the help needed so the gun incident didnt happen.( I think there is alot more to this than what is being said by those who know him best.)

And to Belinda----if you dont like what is being said here about your brother----THAN DONT COME HERE AND READ IT. SHUT OFF THE COMPUTER AND PLAY OR READ TO HIS KIDS......GIVE THEM A HUG, TELL THEM YOU LOVE THEM, GET RID OF GUNS IN THE HOUSE, CALL A COUNSELOR, GO TO CHURCH.......DO SOMETHING ELSE....but dont tell those on here to stop saying what they feel.....they have the right to express their feelings and to help healing begin NEED to express their thoughts and feelings!

I have stated in a previous comment that forgiveness is important and I stand by that statement although as a human being who is WATCHING HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS SUFFER because of stupid decisions made by a stranger I am finding it hard to forgive someone who shoots at their own children with a shotgun.If the diebetes was such an issuse then why are the guns in the house???? Dont make excuses for him!

..so really Belinda.....these folks here are in their own "JAIL"....if they want to state their opinions they MUST do so to heal....dont take that away from them too!
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why????
9/25/09 at 6:01 PM
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if he was drinking why wasnt he arrrested??????? that woudl be the question to ask. why did they wait almost three months to arrest him? and according to what i have looked up the max he will get regardless is 1 yr and a max of 1000. doller fine.
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biker
9/25/09 at 2:53 PM
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As to the drinking you may want to check the police report because Sam had been drinking. We have all seen this report and so has all the parties involved. Check your facts on that one. Sam should have been arrested on July 5th, it made me sick to walk thru the hospital and watch him linger around. If things would have been reversed I would have been hiding my face or in a secure room. I had police officers and myself watching the guys to make sure one of my friends didn't go to jail that evening in the hospital for taking his life right there. Emotions were running crazy and I am glad we got out of West Virgina!

We wish there were answers: Why couldn't Sam go the mile or two and get off the interstate and back on like everyone else that "had missed their exit"???? What was so important that Sam couldn't wait those 5 minutes on a Sunday afternoon???? Why did Sam never even slow down or look??? Even if we had not been right there, their were many other cars? Sam you would not have made the turn, why were you trying to make an ILLEGAL U-TURN?????

A bunch of people would love answers to these and many other questions!
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9/24/09 at 11:30 PM
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Belinda at least you still have a brother that you can go and visit. Does Bruces Family? Atleast your brothers children can go and see their father behind bars. Can Barb and Bruces children go see them? The point is that death is irreversable, but being in prison at least you still have life. At least your brothers children are safe from him after all didnt he shoot at them but let me guess that was a accident also if he wouldnt of missed would you still feel the same way? They way I look at it if the LAW would have performed their job the right way the day he took two peoples life the children, his own children would have never been put in danger.
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Belinda
9/24/09 at 6:23 PM
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I have never once taken up for what my brother did but i will not allow you or anyone else to make a mockery of his family. and as to drinking that day for one if he had been drinking he would have been aressted on the spot. do you realise that he is a diabetic and that the same signs as a drunk is that of a diabetic. i am not condoning any of his actions and yes i feel sorry for everyone involved in cluding my family my dying father who ha to live with the fact that he will never again see his only son. the fact that 4 children have a father that has made horriable dicisons and acted very careless. am i angry at him yes i am do i love him yes i do he is my blood and if you were in my shoes not his but mine you would be feeling the same way. my family is torn aprt and living in hell from this just as well as Both of the other families. all i have ever asked in this entire thing is for you to condiser our feelings as well. I totaly understand the hurt the anger. but inthe same we are hurting and angry also. the person that is showing on the web sites that everyone is calling scum and a sob and all the other names that are being called is only a shell of the person that i know as my brother. and if you want to do some investagating you will find out that before this accident he had nothing at all on his record. as i have said before i pray for closure for all involved inculding my family i have a father a sister 2 neices and 2 nephews that i have to be strong for and pick up where yall are tearing down. and as to the questions on if he was meaning the wreck when he said he was going to be indicted for murder yes he was it has ate at him since the day it happen. and he has not been the same since. so to all your hope he is living in hell you have your wish he is living in his own hell. why he didnt look taht day i will never know and if i could go back and chage it i would. from our family I am truly sorry you never got to know the brother i use to have. i am truely sorry for his actions then and things that have happend since. but please i beg of you to consider us and our trying time also.
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jc
9/24/09 at 5:55 PM
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this was not a mistake it was a conciouse decision that he made I to am a vet but I dont know 1 other person that has acted as recklessy as this guy not mistakes but decicions of his own so no I think he should swing and dont really give a crap about him feel bad for his family but he can go away and he is still alive and his family can have contact with him and yea I think he's a scumbag did he have a licence to drive dont think so did he have insurance like most people we already know that answer how much was he drinking that morning barely under the limit I was told such a good dad did not even shield his kids from the scene just let them stand there 20 feet away and soak it in so what I said before goes if it wasnt for the injured that day and our dead I myself would have taken care of it then period. once again this was not a mistake but a decision big difference
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Jamie
9/24/09 at 5:13 PM
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I miss Bruce and Barb, not a day has went by that I don't feel that pain and loss in not having Bruce and Barb with us. I always feel like Bruce is going to pop around a corner and he is playing a practical joke like he always used too. I want to stop at his house everyday on the way home from work and just say "Hi". We all miss all the things that we used to do with Bruce and Barb and our hearts our extremely heavy that they are not here with us.

Mr. Flowers I feel sorry for your children, I believe they are safer now that you are behind bars and I believe you should stay there for a very Long Time!!!!!!!!!

You had a chance to be with your family, Bruce and Barb got ripped away from their family with no good byes, no hugs, no last "I love you's", you had a chance to be that father and now you have lost it too! I just hoped you have not screwed your children up for the rest of their lives, they do not deserve anything bad. You on the other hand deserve what you get!!!!!!!!!!

Bruce and Barb we love and miss you!!!!!
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tk
9/24/09 at 4:50 PM
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Well, it's about time charges were filed.

It looks like Mr. Flowers has more than the charges stemming from the death of my brother to face, and the latest issues could very well stem from the incident on July 5 that killed my brother. However, I can't stop thinking about where we would all be if he had just looked to his right to see if there was oncoming traffic. I try not to live in a world of "what if's" but in this case I must.

My heart is heavy everyday for my brother. He's gone and will not be back. Mr. Flowers has a chance to repent and live a life with his children and family, we don't have that same opportunity and never will.

So, don't be so quick to judge those of us who are mourning our brother, friend, dad. Lives that were precious to us, in different ways are gone but never forgotten.

May God be the Center of each of your Lives, it's okay to be mad and angry. Be thankful for the time Bruce and Barb were a part of our lives and live each day to the fullest.
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Sam
9/23/09 at 11:26 PM
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I have set here and read a lot of things from a lot of people some good and some bad. In the area of the bad it takes scum tio call anothetr scum, I learned that in Viet Nam, also riding bikes for over 30years. but I have to thank god that I was allowed to make mistakes during this period, an thank god that I donot have to go to the area that all this is happening, i never realized that there is an reagion of this world where no one has ever made a mistake. please stay where you you are, I dont wish to have you near me thank you
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belinda
9/23/09 at 10:50 PM
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You know i have sat here want watched alot being said but calling my brother a sob is where it stops for one that i putting down my mother my god rest her soul.i have prayed and prayed to find closure to this entire thing i feel for all of the familys involved including mine. i have 4 neices and nephews that i have to pick up the peices of where there father went wrong. why dont any of yall think about them the innocent kids when your writing the things you are. no matter what happens they still hurt for their father. think about that think about the fact that somewhere he has a family that is tryign to figure out why he is doing the things he is doing and hurting for him doing it. I am very sorry this happend and that two people lost their lifes but i have to belive that there has to be a end and all this nasty ness is not helping you or us.
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j.c.
9/23/09 at 8:50 PM
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the guys a lowlife s.o.b. he deserves evrything he gets I got no more use for him we knew it that day and I'll belive it for the rest of my life period he actually deserves to be strung up right now cause he obvouosly doesnt care bout anybody else including his own kids sorry got no forgiveness left
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A friend with a heavy heart
9/23/09 at 1:54 PM
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To just wondering, I have seen so many comments telling us, Bruce & Barbs friends, that we need to forgive, etc. but for what reason do you think I should try to understand how it feels to be in Mr. Flowers shoes. Not for one moment do I care how he feels. I wonder if you would preach the same message if you had been the one to hold the hand of one of your dearest friends lying on the road and you begged him not to die. If you were the one to look into the eyes of the EMT as he tells you, "I'm so sorry, he's gone". That is what I live with every day. I am not judging this man, his character speaks for itself. I know God is forgiving and if Sam Flowers even asks for forgiveness I know God will forgive but I cannot forgive, at least not yet. Maybe you should think about how it feels to be in my shoes or the shoes of all our friends who were traveling that day instead of defending a man who obviously has no regard for human life, after all he fired shots at his own children. I stand by what I said in my last message, he's a low-life piece of scum who deserves to be punished.
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lady
9/23/09 at 12:40 PM
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This mornings local newspaper in Morgantown .. reads man faces negligent homicide chages from I-68 wreck. it aslo states he is being held for allegedly shooting a gun towards his 2 children and 2 sheriff's deputies. The man is Sam flowers. This is the front page of the Dominion Post.
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just wondering
9/23/09 at 7:33 AM
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if it is the same man does any body even think that maybe everything that has gone on has played a part on his life. i mean how would you feel if you were in his shoes. the God i serve wants forgivness for all not for who we pick and choose. I am not to judge anyone and there should only be one judge of life that is God his self
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9/22/09 at 8:04 PM
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I went to the WDTV web site and instantly my heart went to my throat. That is definately the Sam Flowers who was responsible for killing Bruce and Barb. I will never forget his face that day at the accident scene. People keep telling me I have to forgive but this low-life piece of scum took two very special people. I live every day remembering the sites and sounds of that awful day. I want my friend back but I cannot have that. I think of Bruce and Barb and the amazing people they both were and I cannot look at this man with anything but anger. I only pray he gets what he deserves.
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JW
9/22/09 at 9:08 AM
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I am just wondering if the Samuel Flowers who was charged and is now in jail for felony wanton endangerment for threatening to kill people and for domestic violence is the same one that was in the wreck? Check out the story on WDTV's website.
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Why wouldn't I miss you?
9/20/09 at 10:05 PM
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Just 12 weeks ago I lost one of my very best friends. Last night as I tried to sleep my thoughts turned to how much time I shared and how many memories I made with Bruce. Many vacations, many nights out on the town, lots of great parties, too many to count Harley rides, and doing shots of Partrone on his patio, and..uh..falling off that same patio after drinking to much Yuka! I laugh at the thoughts and then cry to know that person I loved so much as my friend has gone on to heaven. I miss you so much and I think about you every day. Thanks for all the things you did that made me smile and laugh because those memories are getting me through your loss. Thanks Tracey for calling me Friday. It meant so much to hear from you. I know so many share my pain and they also shrare the memories of the laughs Bruce left us with.
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mike everett
9/11/09 at 2:02 PM
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GO BUCKS i know youll be watching miss ya barney
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friend
9/3/09 at 1:27 AM
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The last update I've received regarding charges, the case is going before a grand jury.

To all that traveled with Barb and Bruce, to those who stopped to help, to the rescue personnel--thank you from the bottom of my heart. Barb was supposed to grow old with me. I miss her desperately. To Bruce's family--I'm so sorry I never had the opportunity to meet him. When I take my seat at the OSU v. USC game, I'll tip my flask in his honor. My thoughts and prayers have been with all of you.

I will post again when I learn of updates regarding charges.
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Amy
9/2/09 at 11:47 AM
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Lee, How is your father doing? I hope that he continues to improve! I continue to keep you and your family in my thoughts.
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Miss ya
8/30/09 at 10:37 AM
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Another Buckeye season about to start and it won't be the same...No Bruce to say "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaats Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup ..no red line to Tressel ..no buckeye blast ..no screaming at the refs...no party hearty ...no Bruce...it just won't be the same....so before the games start just say a prayer for Bruce and tell him we miss him
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tk
8/26/09 at 6:35 PM
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What's the status on charges with Mr. Flower? Anyone know?
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Jamie
8/10/09 at 4:13 PM
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It was so nice seeing Pete back at his house, thru all this Pete has given us hope. Pete we love you and the whole Vaubel family so very much!

Deb, Brian, Carrie and Crissy it was so nice to see all of you again and we really need to see each other more often. Without Bruce we must keep contact. Barb's family is in my thoughts and prayers especially her daughter!

Not a day has went by that I don't see all the events unfolding and happening in my mind and it haunts Chris and I. We just got engaged last Sunday and even though as a couple we have pulled together so much. We are trying to be happy even when our hearts are breaking and we long to see our friends and have them share in our happiness. I know Bruce and Barb are smiling, Bruce has been the pushing force behind Chris and I dating and being together and he is so happy for us. We just wish they were both here to share tears of happiness instead we are shedding tears of sadness!
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jc
8/10/09 at 11:18 AM
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i just miss them , with every picture i see and every painful beat of my heart . bruce and barb we miss you
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unknown
8/6/09 at 6:37 PM
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has any one heard about charges or what is going on with the investagation?
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Valerie (Bowie,Md.)
8/6/09 at 4:59 PM
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Lee, So happy to hear that your father is home and doing well. We think of all of you often and pray for all of you that you are doing well. Hope to see all of you again soon..
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lee vaubel
8/6/09 at 7:45 AM
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Dad is home and is doing well but he is very everwelmed. I would like to say that he, I, and the girls all appreciate the visitors and their support in the last day but as you know dad is a very well loved man and there are A LOT of people wanting to see him. Unfortunetly he cant have to much stimulation right now and needs to have tome to rest.... so please try to visit him between 9am and 6pm and limit his company to 2- 3 people at a time till he has time to settle in a little more. (Please pass this word on to anybody you think this may effect).
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Kerri ...Bruce's step daughter
8/5/09 at 9:55 PM
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It's been one month today.. my husband Ben called as I was taking a nap with my boys..."Bruce was in a motorcycle accident " he said " Kerri, ....he died" At that moment time stopped, and I was filled with this heavy pain that I never knew existed. All day long everyday and night he is all I can think about. He was my dad since I was two. ...every year on my birthday since I was 15 he would send me a dozen yellow roses with a card entitled, "My Little Birdie" Bruce was alot of things, unpredictable, spontanious, carefree, and he also was my mentor, my rock, the one person to call when I needed something, or a question answered..if he didnt know it, he would find it out. He would randomly call me at 6:30 am for a wake up call on my days off, as Im sure he did with many others as well. I guess I am compelled to write this to help those hurting without him as I am to celebrate him and all of those great, ridiculous, annoying and even stubborn qualities he possessed. His smile and personality were indeed infectious, and that is what I will take with me and carry me through this, as I hope your good memories will carry you. God Bless
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lee vaubel
8/4/09 at 1:15 PM
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I just got word that dad is scheduled to come home tomarrow! he is going to need a little help but at least he will be home. One step closer to the family being back to normal.
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lee vaubel
8/3/09 at 6:15 AM
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To keep everyone informed..... Dad is making progress at st ritas hospital and eager to come home. He still has a quite aways to go before he will be compitent enough to take care of himself but they plan on dicharging him on aug 12th with a plan of some kind of home care.
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Susan
8/2/09 at 4:39 PM
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I wonder if every Sunday will be this painful for the rest of my life. I read Tracey's post and Tracey I want you to know I thought about you again today and I truly care about your loss and the pain you are dealing with from losing Bruce. Bruce was not my brother, husband or dad but he was my friend and not one day has gone by that I haven't cried and mourned the loss of my buddy. Bruce and I picked at each other right to the end. Even at the last gas stop before the accident he was making me laugh and getting in his last digs, as was I. I really miss him. To all our freinds who were with us that day, I am thinking of all of you today.
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Tracy (Bruce's Sister)
7/30/09 at 11:47 PM
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I'm on vacation in Daytona and the reality of my brothers death has hit me really, really hard over this last week. I continue to hear his voice in my head, I cry and it doesn't help. I pray, it doesn't help.

Then to hear on the news the owner of the Local Harley Davidson was killed out west by a motor home that came over into his lane......I had the opportunity to relive Bruce again.
Bruce left us so suddenly. No time for final good byes, no last hugs, no last Crown and Coke or a cold beer, nothing, nothing at all.

We are left here to wonder why, why did this happen. I know my Faith and the Good Lord will help me through this time, howvever I know my heart will alway have a huge void in it. My life has an empty feeling and I ache to see him again.

Lee, I continue to pray for your Dad, and for Barb's family, especially her daughter.
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mike everett
7/27/09 at 9:58 PM
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i look at this site every day hoping to find some closure as a friend of bruce and barb and there family members there is not a day that goes by that i dont think of him and all of you he was very proud of his family and children brian if you read this contact me at me24@earthlink.net god bless you all as for mr flowers in a earlier post i said i hope you rot in hell i would like to retract that only because i know bruce would want me to as for forgivness probably will NEVER happen you have to deal with this for the rest of your life i just hope your children dont may god will grant them the strength to forget this horrible day and the stupid stupid thing there father has done
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lee vaubel
7/27/09 at 2:54 PM
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Well, after a long confusing week we did eventually get dad to st. ritas thursday evening (tired but safe). He is in the rehab unit and free to see visitors. his progress has been minimal these past few days but he has made some small improvements. I have no doubts that dad will pull out of this though ..... he just needs some time to collect his thoughts. Me and my family want to thank everyone for their support and prayers during these past few weeks.
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Kris (Bruce's Daughter)
7/22/09 at 7:21 PM
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Not a day has gone by i haven't thought that question...Why? Why did this happen?? I hope one day, Mr. Flowers, you will tell the truth. Then maybe we all can get some closure...

For those who don't know, Bruce has 3 step children he has helped raise for the last 25 yrs. And was "the best Papaw" if you ask his grandson "Bundle".

I too want to thank gatorade man, emt's and everyone else that helped at the accident, for those who have us in their thoughts and prayers and to all of Bruce's friends that were with him, Thanks for being there for my dad. He is lucky to have such good friends as u guys.

Thanks to all Bruce's daughter Kris
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Guy in Red/White Striped Shirt
7/22/09 at 3:04 PM
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To the Vaubel family: Though I don't know you guys (or anyone else involved in this), at some point, I've got to meet Pete and shake his hand or something. Then, I'd go immediately and buy a lottery ticket or something. For someone that - when I checked initially - I felt was 'gone', and then to be walking in a few weeks?...... It's not luck - we all know what it is. Amazing power of faith and prayer - and family. Email me sometime - J. Covelli has my address...

One of the posts had a comment about the SUV's bumper. That was one of the stories - someone must have hit him when he was pulling over to let a tailgater go by. Maybe they were checking for damage?...

This question haunts me every day and I still hope to get some sort of resolution - somewhere, sometime. Mr. SUV driver - I can (almost) understand the turnaround, missing an exit, not seeing the 'no U-turn' sign - maybe a whole host of other factors - but please, please - someday tell me why you never stopped or even slowed down. It wasn't that you stopped and then misjudged or didn't see the cars/bikes (yes, there were cars in the other lane), but you just plowed into traffic. What happened?

- Gatorade Guy
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Deneen
7/22/09 at 1:01 PM
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I had worked for The Boss for 6 1/2yrs, there are those who had worked for him longer. With a crew of 8, some of us are pretty close. In an instant so many peoples lives have been affected....
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Sheri Toth
7/22/09 at 1:56 AM
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Lee- I can't express enough how happy I am to hear of your Dad's progress. Although I am very reluctant to post a comment, as I am shaking writing this, please know your family has been in my thoughts throughout this very long and painful journey.

Barb's sister- Sheri

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Chris
7/21/09 at 3:10 PM
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Lee so glad to hear your dad is improving and being moved closer to home! I know there are many who would like to visit him and see with their own eyes how he is doing and wish him well. When he is able to receive more visitors. We all will be thinking of him and your family for his fast and complete recovery.
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Stars Shine..Look for Them!
7/20/09 at 6:35 PM
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I for one feel compassion for Samuel Flowers as much as I do for everyone else here. Sadness and Sorrow on two totally different levels! Heaven & Hell as a result of the same tragic occurrence. We always must consider "What if the shoe were on the other foot". What if someone we loved and cared for made a mistake? What if I make a mistake after otherwise just trying to live a good life? Does that one mistake totally account for who I am and how I will be remembered? I don't think it matters so much if others forgive us. I don't think we can ever forgive ourselves!! This is a terrible tragedy no matter how you look at it. The only good thing that can come from this will be Pete's recovery & healing, and our support for the family's in an effort to comfort and ease their pain. The hardest lessons give us the greatest strength and eventually we become all the better for that lesson. I know Bruce and Barb must be smiling down from heaven watching over and very proud of you all. Pete is also very lucky to have raised such strong children and to have them by his side. Thank you to his family for posting updates. Still praying .. Hands together ^
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lee vaubel
7/20/09 at 3:03 PM
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To keep everyone updated .... We are bringing dad to st. Ritas (lima) tomarow morning where he will finish his recovery. I havent seen or talked to dad since thursday afternoon but my sisters tell me he is still recovering quickly. He is walking with minimal help and comunicating better evey day. They removed his treach tube and we expect his feeding tube to be taken out soon also. Feel free to contact the hospital after wednesday to see if he can accept visitors.
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7/20/09 at 1:40 PM
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I know Mr.Flowers personally. He would not hurt anyone on purpose. He, himself use to ride motorcycles. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone learns from their mistakes. There is no one who has a right to judge others, it even says so in the Bible. for you people who are judging him, shame on you, read your Bible, you are not God. It was a mistake. My prayers and thoughts go out to all of you and even to Mr. Flowers. I know Mr. Flowers feels very bad for what happened. I know it is a day he will never forget.
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Carrie
7/20/09 at 11:03 AM
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In my post I said to Lee, I meant to say to Pete, sorry about that. To everyone involved and their families, you all are in our hearts, minds and prayers. Everytime my husband and I ride where the accident was we remember those lost, the ones recovering and everyone else traumatized by this. When we pass the spot, we twist the throttle so they know we are thinking about them.
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Carrie
7/20/09 at 8:09 AM
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To all the families and friends of Bruce and Barb, as you can tell by now the you are in everyone's thoughts and prayers. To the Lee, keep up the good work on the recovery everyone is waiting for the day when you are able to leave the hospital. To all of the people and family members I will guarantee you this, all of us who ride will keep your family members in our hearts and minds. We will not let this pass. TO MR. FLOWERS:..What you did may have not been intentional but you still did one of the most stupid things in the world and by doing that you have taken two peoples lives and injured SO MANY, not only physically but emotionally. You see in the state of West VIrginia we have a thing called DANNY'S LAW, which in short version, KILL A BIKER GO TO JAIL...which I pray that they charge you with. To your children, they also are unfortunate victims of your actions. I hope that they recover well and do not have lasting scars. ALSO- if you are such a good man then why were you so concerned about the bumper on your truck when they were getting ready to tow it instead of caring about the people you just killed and injured? Everyone makes mistakes, but you do you really care about what you did? You are really showing it. Step up and be a real man. Us in the biker community will push for the prosecutors to use Danny's Law. And yes I ride my own.
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just a stranger
7/20/09 at 12:29 AM
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I wanted to thank you all for being willing to share your pain, memories, thoughts and feelings here. It has been 2wks since the accident, I knew and know none of you; yet, still I find myself checking in from time to time hoping to learn a little more. It helps me somehow to know about these 2 people * Bruce & Barb* It is also very kind of Pete's family and friends to let us know a little bit about who he is and updates about his condition. Strangers shared in this, and strangers care about all of you; including Sam.

It is clear that Bruce, Barb, Pete, and Sam have great family and friends. I am amazed by the strength and integrity so many have displayed here. Still thinking about you all in my prayers*
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Susan
7/18/09 at 11:49 PM
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I am sitting in my living room tonight and just as I have every night since the accident, I am thinking about the sights and sounds I experienced that day. Part of me wishes I hadn't had to see my freinds like that but another part of me was thankful to be there. I was hesitant to take this trip because of timing, etc. but Bruce asked and John and I decided to go. We had a great weekend, as we always did on our trips, and have had some great stories to share of the happy memories of this trip. I am thankful for all who helped us that day. To Mr Flowers I want to say that I have not been able to forgive you yet but I do feel sorrow for your family and for you for the burden you must bear for your horrible choice but that choice took the lives of two very special people. My choice to forgive wil take time. Last night our group of friends met and had a wonderful time. As as we were laughing, dancing and singing I remember thinking how strange it was to me to know that a piece of our lives was missing, but life goes on and we can laugh and have great times together still, in spite of our loss. My thoughts seem a little jumbled but my mind is working over time just trying to process the events of the past two weeks. I am thankful for Pete's progress and continue to think of and pray for him and his family. Can't wait to see you again, Pete. This event has changed my life in many ways. I definantly know now that life can be changed in an instant.
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Brian..(Bruces son)
7/18/09 at 1:35 AM
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I miss my dad, my friend, the man who guided me as a kid when i needed it, or didnt. The one person who always gave me hell if i was out of line, and always stood by my side. Im really gonna miss him. Mr. Flowers i hope this letter reaches you cause i want you to know that i dont hold hate in my heart for anyone....I know you didnt ask for this. Im telling myself that your suffering the repercussions of gods will. Do your time, take care of your family and be more careful, for the next time could be your own funeral...or your childrens.
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john
7/16/09 at 2:33 PM
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there are now two crosses that mark the spot I put them up wed. we all live almost 500 miles away and can not make sure they are ok if anyone does see them down or damaged email me jcovelli@woh.rr.com so we can get them back up (or if you do it let me know and I,ll take care of it that way ) you all have been very nice and now we must go on for bruce and barb would have wanted that thanks again john covelli
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Ibanesse
7/15/09 at 4:38 PM
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Oh, wow... I was driving on that stretch of I-68 westbound about 20 minutes earler, on my way to Pittsburgh from DC. I remember the motorcycle cavalcade, I passed them somewhere in Garrett County, Maryland. That gives me chills. I know what it's like to be a victim of this kind of accident, having survived being hit by a car seven years ago while crossing the street in my DC neighborhood. I know how lucky I am to be alive, and, what's more, intact. I don't pray, but my heart and my thoughts are with the victims and their families. And if the SUV driver survives, I hope he is punished appropriately for his utter recklessness.
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Don Shook Family
7/15/09 at 3:14 PM
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Pete and I worked together until my retirement. Pete holds a special place in my and my family's hearts. Always a kind word, a warm smile and loving hand. Truely a great man. My thoughts and prayers to Pete, Lee, Kristin and Cindy and to all the families involved.
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t.watkins
7/15/09 at 10:13 AM
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I want to say thank you to all the friends and family that were so understanding about the hurt i felt inside losing Bruce. You are all some of the greatest most kind hearted people i know. Wow....what a hard weekend. It was so hard to see Bruce like that and to say goodbye knowing there is no response.....I still get up everday expecting those phone calls and having him harass me.lol. Nothing but silence........It is always good to hear that Pete is doing better and I certainly pray for him often, for even though he is making it thru the accident, he will forever have the same heartache that the rest of us have, and I hope he can make it thru that also. I would like to comment on the things that have been said.......I was not at the accident, but I appreciate everything that emergency crews did. These people dedicate their time to helping people and they certainly don't look forward to getting calls like that. I know in my heart they all did everything possible to help the people involved in this accident. When these folks arrive on a scene they don't judge they are there to help.....so to those of you who have judged these great people, shame on you! It was senseless on Mr. Flowers behalf, but we are all human, and if you were in his shoes would you want peoe to judge you that way? We are not perfect and will all be judged someday.
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Kristin (future daughter-in-law)
7/14/09 at 1:05 PM
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I just want to say that Pete is out of ICU! He is beginning to recognize people and mouth words. I am leaving to go see him tonight, and I cannot wait!

I cannot say thank you enough to everyone and what you are doing to show your support. I told Lee, "We have the best friends in the world."

Lee and I came home this past weekend to be there for the funerals. Being there with all of you, hearing your personal memories of Bruce and Barb, listening to you telling us how much you love us... I felt very special being around you all. I love you guys. I know that Bruce and Barb would have been happy knowing how much they have affected people's lives.

This experience has been a rollercoaster of emotions for a lot of us. I want my family and friends to know that I am here if you need me.

To the Gatorade Guy: I remember you coming up to me there on the interstate. I want you to know that you have helped us deal with our loss with your kind words. I know it might not have seemed like it at the time with all the confusion, but I am glad that you were there to help be there for my friends.

I just want to say for the record that I appreciate everything the Firefighters, Police, EMTs, Ambulances, Helicopter crew..etc. You could not have gotten there any faster. I was impressed with how organized and efficient your teams worked together. There was one Firefighter in particular whom I will never forget. He was working on Pete, and once they put Pete in the ambulance he helped calm Lee and I down by telling us to take a breath and instructing on what we needed to do. I only know your face, but thank you for your hard work. Thank you all for your hard work and compassion. I admire all of you for what you do.
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First FF/EMT on scene
7/14/09 at 12:26 PM
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This was one of the worst accidents that I have ever seen in my time as a firefighter/EMT, and my thoughts go out to the families of the victims.

To "faith kail" and your negative comments about the response time from the emergency services. I was the first emergency worker on scene that day and I came in my own vehicle. I was at the scene within 3 min of the alert going out and providing care to the patients within a minute of arriving on scene and telling dispatch what was going on.

All the fire departments that responded that day are 100% volunteer, but let me walk you through how the emergency dispatch works. Once 911 is called it takes 1-2 mins for the call to be put into the computer system and sent to the actual dispatcher. Once that happens the dispatcher then alerts or "tones" the appropriate response (which takes about 2 min to complete a full alert) after that us FF's have to come from our houses and go to station, get dressed and then respond with one of the fire trucks. In the case of this particular day there were too many people blocking the road and wouldn't move over for the fire trucks even with lights and sirens on. I was there treating 3 critical patients by myself for about 5 min because people would not move out of the way of both the fire trucks OR the ambulances. But considering where the fire station and ambulance station are, it was an extremely fast response.

As for the helicopters, its not like they can just come and land just like that. We as a Fire Department have to set up a special landing zone for each helicopter because an interstate is not made for helicopters believe it or not. But also understand that one of the helicopters came from northern PA.

But "faith kail" I really do like it how you judge without knowing ANYTHING about the fire service or emergency services in general. People like you disgust me because you won't volunteer your time to help others like the us firefighters (who all have full time jobs), but instead you just sit back and judge. However, I've seen your type before, but yet when you wreck or your house is on fire myself and the rest of us will be there and we will put 100% effort into helping you. So until you actually know what you are talking about you need to stop judging people.

Again my thoughts goes out to the victims and their families of this terrible wreck.
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Epiphany
7/13/09 at 2:20 PM
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I am so sorry for all of this - All of the ones who are mourning the loss of loved ones, and all the ones who suffer from the events of that day > Including Mr. Flowers!! I am certain in time the ones closest to this tragedy will find some sort of comfort in forgiveness. It is easy for me as a bystander to see how we can all learn from this. It is easy for me as a bystander to understand and recognize the ways of the world; the attitude of a perfect explanation for things > Somebody did wrong and needs to be held accountable!! Let me just say that -We all do wrong- I have not completed my life and do not know that someday it won't be me in Mr. Flowers shoes. What Mr. Flowers did that day was a careless mistake, yet even going 5-10 miles over the speed limit -which everybody does- is considered careless should you be involved in an accident. I have lived long enough to recognize that everything you say and do comes back to you. I don't want to be the one standing there unforgiven because I at one point refused to forgive. Mr. Flowers: I hold you and your family closely in my prayers. May you somehow find the strength to get through. I wouldn't wish the pain I know you and your family are going through on anyone!!! With deepest respect to all involved may we each stand stronger in unity for His higher purpose.
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Bubba & J - fellow friends and riders
7/13/09 at 9:42 AM
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This has been the longest week of our life. Even after saying our final good byes to two great friends we are left with heavy hearts and mourning. Our heart goes to Bruce and Barb's Family's. Pete is making progress and that is the best news we have had all week.

We were involved in this accident and it will forever haunt us, the hugs from our family and friends are the best hugs we have ever gotten. The tears are never ending for the ones we lost and the one we are waiting on coming home. Together with all our friends we will pull closer and somehow get thru this.

To Mr. Flowers, I was glad to hear that the children in your vehicle are doing better, I was concerned and I hope they don’t remember the scene from that day!

To the entire emergency crew on the scene and to all the hospital employees we would like to Thank You for all your help, prayers and support that you guys helped to get us through the worst day of our life.
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a good person who has done wrong
7/12/09 at 8:44 PM
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i would like to know how it is that the bible i read preaches forgviness not hate. it also says those with out sin cast the first stone. to my knowledge there was only one perfict person and he died on the cross for all of our sins. so who are you to judge this man. do you not think he is living in his own hell?
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Mike
7/12/09 at 2:29 PM
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Barb was a very special lady. Her daughter and mine went to school together, and she gave me insight a couple times into what might be going on with her. It was ironic to find out her brother in law was th CO of my old boat in the navy (Florida) and it made you realize once again what a small world it can be. She will be truely missed. As for Sam Flowers, what you did was wrong to do and you CHOSE to do it anyhow. If West Virginia has any sense of right and wrong you will be charged with two counts of Vehicular HOMICIDE, and one attemped Homicide. Time for you to take responsibility for your actions and be charged for what you chose to do. May God forgive you, but may JUSTICE prevail. You left a 16 year old girl parentless!! What justice would you want if it were your family.
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L & M
7/11/09 at 1:00 PM
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My husband & I were on our way home to Bellefontaine, Oh. from a family visit in VA. We were about 3/4's of a mile back from the wreck. All involved are in our thoughts and prayers. From my own experience with loved ones passing, knowing that they are in heaven is what helped me to heal. I feel they are watching over me, protecting me. I hope you feel this with your loved ones too. One thing I know is there is no hatred in heaven, so please do not hate Mr. Flowers. His heart must be broken. I would not want to be in his shoes. I pray for him. I pray that his children will be OK. From the stories on this thread, I can tell Bruce & Barb were really neat people. To all the loved ones, family & friends, I pray that you feel God's presence as you begin to heal. Pete, I pray that you will be better soon. It sounds like you have a lot of family and friends pulling for you. Put your trust in God and he will take care of you. God Bless All Of You - Love Always
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Dave Rosenbeck
7/10/09 at 6:41 PM
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I work with Pete and a very good friend of his, my heart goes out to Pete, Lee, Crystal, and Cindy you are in my thoughts and prayers every second of every day, I even woke up in the middle of the nite last nite and layed there and said a prayer for Pete before I fell back to sleep. Pete is the nicest guy you would ever want to meet. Love you buddy stay strong you will make it. Lee if there is anything I can do to help don't be afraid to ask. For the Flowers family hope everything is going well for you it will be a life sentence for sam just to have to live with the mistake that he made.
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jcovelli
7/10/09 at 3:22 PM
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To Pete's Son and Family, Prayer groups in the surrounding area of Sidney and Shelby County continue to pray for Pete to improve medically and for all his family and friends. Perhaps someday we can meet him through John and Susan. Both John Jr. and John Sr. have experienced healing of serious medical problems through hope, prayers, professional medical care. My husband's grandparents (Forte) were from Morgantown, West VA.. God bless.
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Hope
7/10/09 at 1:10 PM
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It's horrible! One minute you see her driving her little red convertible beeping at you, the next minute you hear she is in critical, then the next minute you hear she died. Bruce and Barb will always be loved! PLEASE pray for the family! She has a 16 year old daughter. It's so weird knowing that someone you see almost everyday is gone.
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timehealsall
7/10/09 at 9:36 AM
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I too was stuck in the accident on Sunday afternoon. I was on my way back home to Clarksburg from Oakland, MD where I preach twice a month. I knew the accident had to be bad because of how far the traffic was backed up. I never got to see how bad or who was involved because, thankfully, the DOT or DOH got the traffic rerouted after an hour or so. I want to say a few things here about the driver of the Jimmy. I know him, Sam, personally! We were employed at the same place until July the 2nd. I talked with him daily. When he was first hired I thought there would be trouble. He was the biggest redneck, not physically, I had ever seen (I'm black) and it was obvious that he had a problem with blacks. But as a man of God I gave him the benefit of the doubt and he began to recognize that and over time we became friends. I got to know him, his wife and his two children. I've been to their home, played with his children. Got help for them from the church when they were in real need. I also know that he lost a little girl several years ago and that that still haunts him. He was mad a God because He took her. I talked with him often about that and many other situations. He often came to me and told me many of the things that were on his heart. I was glad to be able to help him and his family in the ways that I could - spiritually, financially and even ethically. Sam was/is a good guy. I know that he loved motorcycles and was a rider himself which tells me that something must have been wrong for him not to look for those motorcycles before pulling out. I haven't had the chance to talk to him since the accident so I don't know what that something was. Sam left the company where I still work because he had just gotten a much better job in Pittsburgh and was going to start on Tuesday. He was going to make a better life for him and his family. I feel for them because I know that will never happen now. I also want to say to the families of the deceased, on behalf of my friend Sam, "I'm sorry - I would change it all if I could."
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concerned sister and aunt
7/10/09 at 7:33 AM
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I continue to keepeveryone involved in this wreck in my prayer. for thoes concerned about the two children the little girl receved a concussion, busted lip and two black eyes. the little boy was just shook up. To the ones who say they hope this haunts my brother for the rest of his life. my question to you is how does it not? have you not ever even ran over a animal and felt sorry for it ? he is human and has feelings also. he didnt wake up that morning and say oh i am going to go kill some people. do i know what was going threw his mind that moment no i do not as well as neither of yall. am i taking up for him no i am standing beside him as would you if it were someone in your family. there are things that gothrew my mind that will never be answered . i would like continue to know how the other rider is getting along.i will still pray for everyone involved.
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Alicia
7/10/09 at 5:52 AM
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I awoke this morning feeling urged to post this. May God be with all of you.

"but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on the wings of eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint." Isaiah 40:31

May God keep you in the palm of his hands.
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Cheryl Winemiller/ Bruce's sister
7/9/09 at 8:43 PM
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Sunday July5,2009,My life changed... I had a wonderful weekend.. Got a call from my sister, she wanted to talk to me...had no idea what she was about to tell me... She met me at my house.. and then told me, "Bruce died." Those words haunt me everyday.. I can still hear her saying them..I felt like it was a dream, this was not happening..Then reality sat in.. Yesterday, my brothers and sisters, and me, we went to the funeral home to see our brother for the first time since he was killed. My heart hurts, and it also hurts for the pain my brothers and sisters are going threw.bruce was more than a brother to me... I'll miss Barb's smile and her energy!!! Mr. Flowers, I'm sorry to learn that your children were hurt in this accident, and they had to wittness this as well... I hope that they will be okay mentally and physically. To my brother, I love you, and you will always be in my heart. ... I would also like to thank the other bikers that was with my brother. Susan, thank you for being with Bruce.. It comforts me to know that someone was with him...

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Lisa
7/9/09 at 6:16 PM
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I met barb about 2 yrs ago at the rivers edge.My heart goes out to all of her loved ones and everyone else who was affected by this tradgedy.Barb was always very kind and always knew what to say to get me laughing.she had a smile that warmed your heart and i'm lucky to have had the chance to get to know her.She will never be forgotten and everyone is in my prayers.
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man
7/9/09 at 3:42 PM
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gone but not forgotten are bruce and barb. Together we as freinds and family will make it through these tough times with laughs and jokes remembering the ones now looking down on us. But as for the jimmy driver, well he doesn't have any of those great memoris to share abot our lost loved ones. Mr Flowers only has one memory of them and i think that memory will haunt him for the rest of his life, and ithink we will all comearound and colloect our minds again and as god children we will let Mr. Flowers have his own peace. you are all in my prayers forever and ever GOD SPEED!!
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To Lee
7/9/09 at 2:28 PM
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Lee, I just want to say I hope your dad pulls through, from what I'm reading on here about him, he's a fighter and I am wishing and hoping for the best recovery as quickly as possible for him. I've been in a similar position, it wasn't my father, it was my uncle and I know kind of what you're going through. Hoping for the best! - Nikki
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Fire Chief / Friend
7/9/09 at 1:43 PM
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TO: Lee, VanFossen Family & all Involved

Lee this is Chad D. I want to wish you & your father the best and a full recovery. Still have not forgotten the stay at your parents house when we were children and getting into trouble together. I am sure there is no words that can be said at a time like this to help ease the sorrow that you all must be feeling for the loss of close friends, family and the emotional distress that follows these types of incidents.

I want to also send my heartfelt condolences to the VanFossen family; I did not know Bruce or Barb very well but feel as if I did through the mutual friends that we shared. I will have all of you involved, in my thoughts and prayers as this tough time is upon us.

Lee: Please keep me posted on your Dad's recovery and if you do not have it; you can acquire my cell through Tom B. if you need anything or just to talk. Tell Bubba I also wish him the best and was glad to hear that he was ok.

Chad
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Kay
7/9/09 at 10:34 AM
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I would like to say, that in my life I know I have made decsions, that wasn't always the right one, and in this case, this may be true as well, but as a mother of 3, and a husband that was killed last year in a head on collision, that wasn't his fault, I know all to well what these familys are going through. Time will heal your hearts, and always know that God has a plan for all of us, even if we don't understand it at times. May God comfort all of you through this time of your great loss, and remember the good times, as I'm sure that's what Bruce, and Barb would want.. God bless all of you, and may Bruce, and Barb rest in peace..
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Monica Myers
7/9/09 at 9:47 AM
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At church last night we prayed for all the families involved.

I must say it is nice to hear that most of the families of the bikers understand that Mr. Flowers made a bad decision and that none of us can judge since we have all made bad decisions in our life at some point.

Even though I did not know anyone involved for some reason this has effected me greatly. I cannot get in my car without thinking about Sunday. I cannot imagine how everyone involved must feel. To the children in the car with Mr. Flowers I hope they will be getting counseling because I am sure they are very traumatized.

To the guy in the red and white striped shirt - thank you for helping everyone. I think I wouldn't be so distraught if I could have helped but I had two kids in the backseat of my car that I had to make sure were OK.

Everyone that I spoke to at the scene noticed the group of bikers at some point on the road and had nothing but nice things to say. Actually about 10 miles earlier my husband was in the passing lane doing the speed limit and said to me I think I am going to slow down in get in the right lane there are some bikers coming up behind me and I want to let them pass. We then discussed every bike as it went by. They all had helmets on and were doing everything they were suppose to.

Well all I can say is God Bless all the families and I am really happy to hear that Bruce was a saved christian.

- The lady in the grey Chevy Impala - Husband in the green shirt and pants
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k
7/9/09 at 8:49 AM
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What a tragedy.I don't want to appear callous but,it's not surprising with the "me first" attitude that prevails in our society.I have been cut off,squeezed out and,sideswiped,by people who have no business operating a motor vehicle.The guy who sideswiped me just kept driving.There's a reason for traffic rules and regs,but most people are FAR TO IMPORTANT to let anything like a few traffic laws get in the way of the "ME First" rule.Aggressive,rude driving practices are now the "rule of the road".SO,to all you "important " people who don't feel the rules apply to them:This is what happens because of your selfish,irresponsible acts.I hope you're prepared to live with the consequences ass@#$%^!!!!!!!!!
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Lyndsey
7/9/09 at 7:43 AM
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I don't know quite what to say/how to word it. Sorry is just not enough to say now, in the time of everyone's suffering. I hope that somehow the people of the departed can find some kind of comfort and healing in this very hard time in their lives. I hope that Pete will pull through, and continue on for everyone. It was always good to see his smile, and hear his laughter. Take care everyone, and god bless.
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Learning to Ride
7/9/09 at 1:17 AM
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I am very saddened to hear about this tragic accident. My dad called me and told me bout this. He and Bruce talked on occasion. He finds this all very unbelievable. Our prayers are with the family's involved. I really hope that the other rider is able to pull through and gets well soon. We think about this everyday. Its something that is not easily forgotten. However, I have to add that I have read a lot of the emotions and views toward Mr. Flowers. I do feel bad for his family and the children involved. I can not feel anything towards Mr. Flowers. I am unsure as to how many was in the group of bikers but I'm sure that if Mr. Flowers would have taken the time to look then he would have noticed them. I don't hate him, but I think that if he would have taken the time for some proper road side courtesy some lives could have been saved. Fact is this could have been prevented and these family's would not being going through the pain and suffering they are right now. Good Luck to all of you and again We are very sorry for the loss of (from what I have read) 2 very good ppl.
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lee (loving son)
7/8/09 at 11:52 PM
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To keep everyone posted, Dad is still stable. The physicians cannot give a definite prognosis on how his condition will be once he is fully awake and a timeline on when to expect him to be able to interact with us (due to his head trama). They do say that they expect him to greatly improve as time progresses. He has multiple broken bones that will also heal in time. I want to comment on some of the posts made about Mr. Flowers. I would be lying if I said that I wasn't angry with him for the tragedy he caused that day, but I have to be rational and understand that he did not intentionally put us or his passengers in harms way. There have been some posts on this thread that try to make people realize and even feel guilty for the bad decisions they have made in their own lives. The truth is we all have had to answer for the bad decisions we made (no matter how severe) and will continue to just like Mr. Flowers will.

Bruce and Barb you are sorely missed....
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7/8/09 at 10:59 PM
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bruce and barb

R.I.P
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Jana Pulfer
7/8/09 at 10:31 PM
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Bruce is my uncle and I will miss him something awful. But to "reverend" I would like to say that your right, all of us had made bad choices once or twice in our lifetime, and if we haven't, we will. However that being said, if this guy rides bike, and has a cdl, wouldn't he have been a little more responsible? Oh sure, I know he feels just horrible about what happend, but now he has to live with it. And maybe to your or others that is enough for him to live with, but it is not for me. Not only because he took 2 very important people out of this world, and one still in serious condition, but because of his actions, he put two young lives in a world of danger. I don't feel that a man like that deserves to just walk away. The only thing he proved on the road that day, was just how careless he can be. And your right, everything right now to the families involved is completely fresh in our minds. So MAYBE on day we will be able to forgive. But I PROMISE you with all my heart, NO ONE WILL FORGET!!!!! Flowers needs to be a man, and take what he deserves and live up to his "mistake". Any time someone gets out on the road with their veichle, people are counting on them to make wise choices. And it is in my opinion that he did not, and deserves all the sleepless nights. Because I almost wonder if those are sleepless nights for him because he took 2 peoples lives, or is it sleepless because he is worried about what will happen to him? I know that may not be fair to assume that, but as you said were only human. I do however, pray with all my heart for those children, because they had no power over the outcome of this horrific accident. Maybe the next time you are driving around with little ones in a car, maybe you should think about how their only controll is to trust you! So who else do you think Flower let down because he couldn't take the extra five minutes to go down to the exit and turn around? And just to let you know, I have not, and will never make any type of an illegal U-urn. I also, always look both ways 3seconds each way, before turning! Did he? So now tell me we still have no right to feel a little angry!!!!!!
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7/8/09 at 5:04 PM
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Bruce was a man of Gods grace in his own way. He would drop what he was doing to help others. To his family and freinds I know that Bruce will be in our hearts and minds for the rest of our lives. Bruce was one of a kind as you all know. Now if anyone of you even the (jimmy driver) need his help, He will be there with his set of wings. Now everyone lets do what Bruce would want us to do , lets celebrate his life. And now about you Mr. Flowers, Bruce is a very forgiveing person, and would probably want people to sop their hatred twards you, but you have to that is part greiving. through time the Vanfossen / Jones family will forgive you because they are all gods children to. For all families involved in this terrible traggedy on both sides lets have a moment of peace and prayer. To Eveyone GOD SPEED.
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Beth (Grigg) Gilbert
7/8/09 at 4:19 PM
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Scott, Kent, Tracey, Margie and Cheryl- I just want you all to know that you're in my prayers. You know I thought the world of Bruce and still keep hoping this is some kind of nightmare that we can wake up from. To hear all the good things said about him and Barb gives me some peace of mind. He did die doing what he loved and with someone he cared deeply about. What a tragic end to such colorful, vibrant lives. I feel like a part of me has died with them. Stay strong and be good to each other. I love you guys...
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Angie
7/8/09 at 3:20 PM
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I worked with Bruce years ago and met many of his freinds and family members. He was a strong example of what it means to live life to the fullest, fullfill your dreams, work hard every day, and keep doing what is right in GOD'S eyes. This is how I will remember him for the rest of my days on this earth. I care about a lot of his friends and family and worry about them now. He was a teacher at heart. I know he would want all of you to keep following your dreams and remember the things he told us about fighting for your dreams to come true. God Bess everyone in your time of grieving and sorrow.

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Bubba
7/8/09 at 3:03 PM
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Hmmm: this message is for you! I was the fifth bike in this pack. Yes we were all wearing helmets. We were riding in standard staggered bike formation, and driving the speed limit. I was witness to the whole accident and went into the median to avoid hitting Pete or his bike. The driver of the jimmy never slowed stopped or even looked our way. Mr.Flowers pulled right into the middle of our pack! Never slowing at all. Was it so neccesary to use that turn around I wouldn't think that going up to next exit would be that big of deal but maybe it was. I hope he feels sorry for it now! just everyone keep all the families involved in your thoughts and prayers. I have lost one of my best friends and his girlfriend, and another is fighting for his life. And I was witness to all of this. So to hmm it was nothing we did wrong.
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Reverend
7/8/09 at 2:54 PM
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So I suppose that EVERYONE who is sitting in judgment against Samuel Flowers is the perfect, most straight up, law abiding citizen and have done never any one thing wrong in their lives, and have never made a wrong decision? Or a bad decision? Or a hasty decision that, although it may not have turned out badly, it could have?

I am not taking sides. My heart goes out to all of the families to ALL involved, and also to the people on here who have posted with such anger in their hearts. We as humans oft times make extremely poor judgment calls, and have to face the consequences. All or our actions have consequences, be they good or bad. In this case it was bad, and people lost their lives. Do you not think that Samuel Flowers will not have to live with that knowledge for the rest of HIS life? It is tragic. Samuel is also a biker, and has been for many years. He is also a truck driver, driving one class of truck or another, for many years. He has the UTMOST respect for bikers of any kind. He is NOT a bad person. But a person who made a BAD decision. My prayers and thoughts are with the families who suffered a loss due to this tragedy, and I hope that God will offer you peace in your souls and forgiveness in your hearts, For those who are being judgmental, sit in judgment on yourselves before you sit in judgment on others. Let him who is WITHOUT SIN cast the first stone...

Peace be with you all.. and especially to the families involved, and let us not forget the 2 youngsters that were involved in this as well,... They are very young, and do not understand what is going on.
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Tracy Kearns
7/8/09 at 2:42 PM
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My brother was the man killed along with his girlfriend in the horrific wreck on Sunday. My heart is so heavy and it aches. I'm empty, sad and filling a huge void in my life. He wasn't only my brother, he was my friend. This morning was the first I've gotten to see him since he was killed, I never in a billion years thought it would be in the local funeral home. I'm sick to my stomach. I know he died doing what he loved to do, riding a Harley, he was an experienced driver, I'm sure there was nothing he could have done to save his life or the life of Barb. I know he protected anyone who rode with him. My brother is with our parents now. Who would have thought? He was a good person, hard headed, but a good man. He would definately give you the shirt off his back. He was the connection between the six of us. Number 4 in the pecking order, oldest of the son's. Although my time getting to know Barb was short, she was a nice lady, and was good for Bruce. Bruce will be sadly missed by his family and friends. Take time on Saturday Morning to toast his life, first with a cup of coffee in the morning and then a Crown and Coke in the afternoon! He will look down upon you and smile! Funeral arrangements for Bruce are being handled by Cromes Funeral Home in Sidney. Viewing will be Friday from 3 - 8, funeral service on Saturday at 10:00 am. A Motorcycle Memorial Tribute Ride will take place immediately following the services on Saturday from Cromes to the 47 Bar and Grill in Port Jefferson. Celebrate Bruces Life, as that is what he would want.

I love you Bruce, I miss you more than you know.. Hugs and Kisses Brother...........
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7/8/09 at 1:58 PM
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Hmm: Saw it all unfortunately (see earlier post). SUV never stopped for whatever reason. They were all wearing helmets & road gear, traveling in formation, etc.

For the comments about this being an accident or that we don't know the 'real' story, I for one would like to know what the real story is. Unfortunately, I heard several different versions from the SUV, which now I'm having to testify to. For the sake of some closure to those of us who saw the most horrible thing you can imagine - if someone knows the real story of 'why' - please let us know.

I never met Bruce, Barb, Pete the SUV driver or any of the other bikers before, but the events affected us dramatically - like others on that road, my family was just coming back from vacation. We've had to talk with investigators over the past couple of days, so maybe something will be announced soon...

- Gatorade Guy
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7/8/09 at 1:56 PM
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The following link is for Barb Elliston

http://www.sidneydailynews.com/main.asp?SectionID=9&SubSectionID=9&ArticleID=205506&TM=49900.81
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Me
7/8/09 at 1:16 PM
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Yes, all of the riders were wearing helmets...From what it looked like, he pulled in to turn around, GLANCED in the other direction and began to pull out, almost as if he thought he could make it without hitting anybody, it was almost like he had no sense of how soon the oncoming traffic would be right behind him...Listening to the very first and second news stories enlighten the situation a bit more, but nobody really knows for sure other than those involved.
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LES
7/8/09 at 12:41 PM
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My heart goes out to the family and friends of Barb, especially to you Emily. Hang in there girl! Barb was a warm, caring, fun, compassionate, loving person. She would always help someone in need, whether she knew them or not. If you met her one time, she was your friend forever. She will be greatly missed. Love Ya Barb!
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7/8/09 at 11:34 AM
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As I listened to the news Monday morning my heart broke to hear the news of th wreck on 68 that took the lives of two motorcyclist, and the tears fell. One wreckless decision and many lives will never be the same. My prayers go out to the family of the deceased, the friends that survived and the multiple people that had to see the tragic accident and will forever have that memory burned in their minds. I want to say as I read the comments I came across some family members and friends that ask for prayer for the driver of the car and his family. My first thought was what a selfless christ like additude. I thought I don't know if I could of been so selfless. Your christ like witness spoke to me.

My prayers go out to all involved, even the driver of the vehicle and his family. May the peace of God help you through this hard time.
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7/8/09 at 11:21 AM
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Some details are still missing. Were any of the bikers wearing helmets? Did the GMC driver pull into the u-turn area and stop? Or did he turn into it and pull straight out without even looking? The picture of the GMC shows it being hit in the passenger rear quarterpanel. This suggests he either pulled straight in and out onto the opposite freeway, or stopped, and then waited for an unknown reason and pulled out directly in-front of them. Maybe a witness can chime in with these details. Whatever the case, my prayers go out to all the families in this difficult time.
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MisguidedEmotions
7/8/09 at 11:01 AM
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To all of you who say these awful things about Mr. Flowers and praise the loving kindness of these two who tragically lost thier lives...I seriously doubt if such wonderful people as these would want to be used as the vehicle for such venom. It was preventable, as most accidents are. Was he wrong in using a emergency turn around? Of course. Is he the first or only one to do this? Absolutely not. Does our need to be hateful towards this one man help the family of these two, or the one still recovering? I seriously doubt it and hope not. These two that lost lives have been described as loving, caring, and thoughtful. Yet people want to publicly hang this man (Flowers) and give his soul to the devil himself. How odd, how bloodthristy, how unlike the description of these two people that were and are still so obviously loved. There is no healing in Hate...just more hate, it is one of those things that feeds off of itself. So why not try to use that anger and energy to do something constructive in rememberance of your friends, not destroy. Let God and our Judicial system sort the punishments out. Now is the time for healing...Thoughts and Prayers to all involved.
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DeAnn Clayton
7/8/09 at 10:59 AM
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I just wanted to let everyone know that one of the last conversations I had with Bruce was that God was his Savior and his work was to please Him. His goal was certainly to get to Heaven of which I am sure he has achieved with Barb in hand. This is a comforting thought for me and I wanted to share that with everyone to help ease a small bit of the pain if possible.
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Betty Strayer
7/8/09 at 7:55 AM
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Barb was a super nice person, she was always running behind, but always took the time to give a hug and sit and talk for a few minutes. She worked hard, played hard and had a heart as big as the outdoors. I didn't get to see her very much, but I will miss her. Scott & Sharon - I'm so sorry about your brother, I have 2 brothers of my own and I can't imagine what you are going through. I only met Bruce a couple of times way back when Sharon was working at the Edge. Mr Flowers - I cannot condemn you I have done allot of things in my life, I have driven home when I knew I had to much to drink, I have made illegal u-turns when you have 4 people in the car telling you which way to go and when to turn. I have been distracted by kids and had to slam my brakes on, because I was looking at them in the rearview mirror My thoughts and prayers are with everyone - GOD BLESS
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MIKE EVERETT
7/8/09 at 12:06 AM
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kent,scott and the rest of the VanFossen family my thoughts and prayer are with you bruce was the best man in my wedding he was and always will be a great friend i also had the pleasure of knowing barb a wonderful person they both will be greatly missed it is just a shame that i wont be able to sit down and talk with bruce anymore he was a great insperation in my life you could sit down with bruce and he would always have somthing to say some of it may be crazy shit but that was bruce the intire VanFossen family are good people and its a shame that they and all his friends have to be without bruce because of one persons ignorance love and prayers to all who knew bruce and to the man in the GMC i really hope you rot in hell for killing my friend,a father,a grandfather,brother and a wonderfull person ill miss you bruce ,love you man
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belinda
7/8/09 at 12:01 AM
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that is a question we all will be asking. but to let you know a bit of something my brother was also a motercycle rider and a tow truck driver. who is to say that one of the kids didn't get sick and he was taking them to the hospitial that is something i dont know. i am not taking up for anyone it is a very bad tradgy that everyone involved will have to live with for the rest of our lives.
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7/7/09 at 11:43 PM
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I would like to know... Why was Samuel turning around? What was so important that he would risk the lives of everyone in that Jimmy and on that road?

He knew he was making an illegal u-turn. He knew it was against the law. So why did he do it? What was more important than those peoples lives?

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Belinda
7/7/09 at 11:06 PM
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My prayers go out to the familys involved but fighting with my 15 yr old daughter is not going to make what happend go away. like everyone else involed we as a family are trying to figure out why. my neice and nephew were in that car also and as i sit here tonight i have no clue how they are doing. i am not taking up for anyone my heart is broke for thefamilys involved and for what it going to happen in our family.
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Dennis
7/7/09 at 10:56 PM
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There is a difference between an accident and what happened at that wreck.

When you break the law (crossing the median to turn around), it is no longer an accident. Whether he meant to kill people or not doesn't matter - he did. So, that makes it vehicular manslaughter. I hope the moron gets 20-30 years to sit in prison to think about what he caused. He also ignored the safety of his children by doing that. What would've been the outcome if he'd pulled in front of a semi? He definitely wouldn't have to sit and wonder, because everyone in the blazer would be dead instead.

I have absolutely no compassion for the moron that caused this horrific crash.
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Edward Ladd
7/7/09 at 10:38 PM
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Bruce contracted his service with me for nine years. In that time I found Bruce to be his own character and a unnique individual. He was always trying to please me in keeping our plant in top notch condition. As a fellow biker I never got a chance to ride with him but did do a little partying with him. He loved life and being on his bike. My thoughts go out to his family as I also grieve their loss. Bruce is in a better place now and I know the Great Spirit will be looking over him and Barb. To the family, I know you will miss him as well as all of his friends will. We lost a brother and sister.
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doob
7/7/09 at 10:33 PM
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wow garrett u can use profanity and complain about other's having opinions.....im impressed jerk cry to yourself no one cares....instead pray for the families
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Tiffiny
7/7/09 at 10:22 PM
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First off i would like to say that my UNCLE SAM FLOWERS is not the careless jerk that you think he is.

there is a huge difference between 1st degree murder which is planning with the intent to kill someone and manslaughter i believe is third degree. There were also two kids involved in this which are under the age of five years old and if you think someone would do anything intentionally with them in the car you are clearly mistaken atleast no one in my family would.
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Paula G
7/7/09 at 10:17 PM
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I am sorry to hear about the loss of Bruce and Barb. I met Bruce from were I work. He would come in were I worked and everytime he seen me he would say hey trouble and just smile. He was a good guy and his staff also are great people. Bruce always said hi to everyone,laughed and joked around. He had many friends. My prayers are with all the familys. Bruce will miss you coming in and everytime we see your staff you will always be remembered.
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Bro Will & Linda
7/7/09 at 9:54 PM
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Our thoughts and prayers go out to the families of Bruce and Barb. Pete we are wishing you a speedy recovery. Lee & Boom you are also in our thoughts and stay strong!
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Ferris Bueller
7/7/09 at 9:52 PM
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I'm very saddened to hear about the tragic loss of such a wonderful person. I know how much you looked up him Stretch and at the same time I know he was very proud of you and your accomplishments in life. May he and Barb rest in peace.
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Tom C
7/7/09 at 9:40 PM
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My prayers go out to all the families involved. Let God handle the rest even though it may be hard, he will judge all involved and cast judgment where it is due. Again to the families involved and all fellow riders. I pray that all our tears may be wiped by the wings of angles as we continue to ride in remembrance of all our fallen friends and family.
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C
7/7/09 at 8:42 PM
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Bruce made this a better place. His joy for life was contagious, and I am honored to have met him along the way. I pray that he has found his way back home, and that his family finds the strength to make it through the heartache.

"To all my friends, present past and beyond tho you weren't with us too long Life is the most precious thing you can lose While you were here the fun was never ending Laugh a minute was only beginning Bruce Van Fossen this one's for you."
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manger family
7/7/09 at 7:57 PM
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Our thoughts and prayers go out to the families that were involved. For Pete's family were all praying for you to come home soon. If there's anything that we can do please let us know . Pete's family is like family to us, we love all of you guys..
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Matt Marino
7/7/09 at 6:46 PM
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I saw the accident as i was coming home from Chestnut Ridge Church with my friend Jeff Amedro we were leaving the church then we saw traffic backed up on 68 and he thought it was construction so we took cheat road home and then we saw the helicopter and rescue trucks and ambulances and fire trucks and police cars and i said look at that and he prayed for the people also and we saw it backed up from pierpont road exit to sabraton exit also we saw people standing on the bridges and roads looking like if the've never seen an acident before hopefully the GMC driver will go to prison for this two counts of involuntary manslaughter and one count of illegal U turns also if he was drunk it would be there too
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Bryan Rogers
7/7/09 at 6:06 PM
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I had the pleasure of meeting Bruce and the gang on different motorcycle rides in Gatlinburg and Daytona and I can say he was a great guy. He was always making everyone laugh and joking in a way that made you feel welcome. We have lost a truly good man. My prayers go out to Pete, Bubba, Stretch and to Bruce's family.
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doug c
7/7/09 at 5:22 PM
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scott,kent,and the rest of the families.my thoughts are with you all.the world is a little worse today.the loss of two great people.i'll never forget the good times me and bruce had during our wagners foundry days.just thinking of that put a smile on my face.thanks bruce
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Amy
7/7/09 at 2:21 PM
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My heart hurts for the families and loved ones that Bruce and Barb leave behind. I have never met Barb but I did have the pleasure of spending a weekend riding with Bruce and Pete, among others. It saddens me that someone I hold so near and dear to my heart has to suffer this senseless loss. I will keep you all in my thoughts. Pete, keep fighting you will make it through this difficult time.
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Brian and Mandy
7/7/09 at 2:14 PM
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To the families of Bruce and Barb we wanted to express our deepest sympathies to you all. We will miss them both very much and we will carry those wonderful memories that we shared with us forever. We truly all had wonderful times together that will never be forgotten. And to Petes family he is a fighter and he will be coming home. Petey, we love you and we will see you soon. Our hearts and prayers go out to all of you.
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jac
7/7/09 at 1:28 PM
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To all involved in this tragedy: you are in the prayers of all that are part of the prayer petition group of Holy Angels in Sidney, OH. Bruce and Barb will be remembered by those who knew them and those of us who are learning of their great friendship to others. They will be in our conversation all day Saturday as the families gather after the funeral and luncheon at the home of John & Susan, one of the couples riding with them Sunday. We will celebrate their lives and mourn their passing. God bless all.
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Stretch
7/7/09 at 12:31 PM
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There is not enough time or space on here to express what Bruce meant to me and how he has positively affected my life. I finally got to meet Barb this weekend after hearing so much about her, and Pete has always been a true and loyal friend.... At this time all I can do is say thank you to all the people who are saying prayers for all of them, and thanks also for the help and assistance you have provided the families.
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Karen Tester
7/7/09 at 11:48 AM
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My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families involved. Pete, I am praying for you daily for a speedy recovery. Keep fighting, we all want you home soon.
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Bobby Lou and Tina
7/7/09 at 10:34 AM
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We here in Botkins are praying for all the families involved. To Petes Family keep fighting and praying the whole village is pulling and praying for you.
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Corinne
7/7/09 at 10:05 AM
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I just want to let Scott, Kent and the rest of the Van Fossen family know that they are in my thoughts and prayers, as well as Barbs family and friends (even though I didn't know her, she sounds like a wonderful person from talking to others that did know her). I have known Bruce pretty much all my life and enjoyed talking to him whenever we ran into one another. He wil be greatly missed by many. All I could say when I heard the news was "WOW, WOW, WOW". Also prayers for healing of the other injured riders. God Be With You ALL!!!
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7/7/09 at 9:45 AM
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We were 4th vehicle behind the crash and I was second on the scene. Hopefully, this info helps in some way...

We drove in the lane next to the bikes for a mile or two. My wife and I noticed that Barbara patted Bruce's back and he reached back to squeeze her leg - they appeared to be enjoying each other and their time together.

There was nothing Mr. Van Fossen could have done - he had no reaction time whatsoever. The state trooper arrived within a couple of minutes and he immediately called for the choppers. EMTs were there soon after and they were in a flat out run. I was amazed at what all they were doing and thought they did a great job. Let me say this - from what I saw, this wasn't necessarily a 'bike thing'. A couple of seconds difference and we would have hit the SUV with our van and the crash parameters would have been different - but still tragic.

There's lots of other details. Let the investigation run its course - I'm answering the questions asked. If the families/bikers have anything specific, I'll try to answer if that helps. Many prayers to everyone involved and effected. I hope the yound lady in the front car is doing OK as well. It was a horrific event and I hope the others that witnessed it and especially Mr. Vaubel can recover.

To the gawkers on the overpass and surrounding area - get a life.

- 'Gatorade guy' and fellow biker
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Tammy B
7/7/09 at 9:41 AM
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My thought and prayers go out to the three motorcycle riders. Barb was the sister of a very good friend that I grew up with in Wapakoneta. I have known the family pretty much my whole life. As to the driver of the GMC... "sham on you", there is a reason you are not suppose to make an "ILLEGAL" U-turn. I am sure this will be on your mind for the rest of you life, and I should be.

Tammy B
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John Greer
7/7/09 at 9:40 AM
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Scott and family. Our prayers go out to all the families involved. I was shocked to hear Bruce's name as the driver of the motorcycle killed on 68. This is a beautiful but dangerous stretch of road made more dangerous by people not taking the responsibility to drive safely. If there is anything I can do from here in WV, please feel free to contact me.
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Info
7/7/09 at 7:50 AM
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Bruce VanFossen's viewing will be this Friday from 3-8pm at Cromes Funeral Home 302 S. Main Ave Sidney, Ohio. Service will be held Saturday morning at 10am. Thanks to all for your thoughts and prayers in this difficult time.
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Gay S
7/7/09 at 1:00 AM
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I am glad that I got to know Bruce last year he was a great person. Bruce was the last person I have ridden on a Bike with. I met Pete the same night and was surprised that we worked at the same place and that I had known his brother and sister in law (John & Deb) for most of my life. This is a terrible tragedy and like most accidents should never have to happen! But we know that Bruce and Barb are in a good place and at peace. Devyn said he will always remember Bruce driving down our alley in his convertible and being at the Campfires.... We should all remember the good memories that we have of everyone involved. Pete and Family our thoughts and prayers are with each and every one of you!
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local FF
7/7/09 at 12:49 AM
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this is to faith kail... look i know you probably arnt from around here but you need to understand something, with the exception of the ems service the fire depts and some of the rescue are all volunteer. You have to understand that we leave our jobs to answer the call and yes it seems longer but we are moving as fast as we can. Im truely sorry for how you feel but i wish you could see the other side of the spectrum instead of the oh wow it took 15 min to get here...
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Dee Fridley
7/7/09 at 12:46 AM
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I can't believe that two wonderful people are gone. I met Bruce and Barb through our friend Betsy Pleimen. We invited them camping at Dew Downs. Bruce brought his horse "Chip". This guy did not know a stranger, and Barb was so nice and kind. I liked her instantly. My friend Tammy and I took Barb out for a ride because she was scared of horses. After the ride, she was hooked. Barb fell in love with Chip, and she wanted to start riding him. I only knew Bruce for a few hours, and I decided to pull a prank on him. I put a huge fake rat (looked so real) that my friend Dickie Bill bought at a garage sale. I put it in a bag of grain. I told Bruce to go over and stick his hand in the feed bag to see if it was different than his grain. He fell for it, and he screamed and jumped like a sissy girl. I was a little worried that I made him mad, but he laughed and laughed. He told me to beware because he would get me back...I was a little worried then. Pete Vaubel is a very good friend of my husband. Pete is such a nice man. We used to hang out with him and his ex-wife before Mark and I had kids. He always reminded me of (Michael Landon "Little Joe"). I have never heard Pete say anything unkind about anyone. Pete, hang in there. You can get through this. To all the friends and family of Barb, Bruce, and Pete our prayers are with you.
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JW
7/7/09 at 12:07 AM
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It's so very sad. Friends of Barb's family back here in Wapakoneta are shocked and saddened by the news of this tragedy. Our thoughts and prayers go out to all involved, including the witnesses who will forever be changed by this tragic experience.
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zx11
7/7/09 at 12:03 AM
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I have been riding for 39 years 31on the streets . The disreguard, Ignorance and stupidity that people have for someone on a bicycle,moped,scooter or motorcycle is unbelievable.Ihave been hit by a car while riding and got my teeth busted out and the skin completely peeled off my back just because the driver didn't want to wait at a stop sign. My thoughts and prayers go out to the riders and their families and friends.We hope that Mr Vaubel returns home soon . Mr GMC - What you were thinking was seriously wrong and I hope you don't get another chance to find out at the price of someone elses life EVER AGAIN.
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Scott Van Fossen
7/6/09 at 11:57 PM
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To the person that murdered my brother, I am a god fearing man and know my brother is in heaven. By your wreacklessness actions you took two lives. My Brother was wonderful person and was more a father than a brother to me and my sisters and brother. Bruce VanFossen was his name if you even care. he was a busniss man,Family Man, Grandfather, And a great friend to so very many. He will be missed by many and can NOT be replaced.Our hearts have a huge hole in them and it will never be filled. Remember this as you live your life and my brother will never be able to live his. Our family wants to thank everyone for there help, gifts and especially prayers in our time of need.
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Kristin
7/6/09 at 11:49 PM
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I just want to say Thank You to all who are keeping Pete in your prayers. To the Army of friends and family that are supporting everyone in this hard time. To Bruce and Barb We will miss you and We Love you both. To the ones affected by the loss know that there are people here for you and know that they were happy. Pete's family and I love all of you and keep pulling for him because it is helping. Thank you all
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loving son
7/6/09 at 11:29 PM
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i am the son of Pete Vaubel (the injured man that survived the flight to ruby medical) and one of the riders involved with the tragedy sunday. I have a million things I want to say as I read this thread in this hotel loby , but I will just be breif.....to all of you, Thank you all for your prayers, it truly is helping! Dad is stable at this time and still fighting. To the families of Bruce and Barb, I can not express how deaply i hurt for your losses and want you to know that my family and i are including you in our prayers. To Samuel Flowers.......I hope the young girl you brought to the emergeny room that day is doing well, but as it was mentioned before you do in fact have a long and hard road ahead of you. I will be checking this thread as will the rest of my family (when we get a chance)to post updates on Dads condition. Thanks to all again.
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Ron Covelli
7/6/09 at 11:00 PM
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John, Suasn and the Gang, I was deeply saddened to hear of Bruce and his girls passing. My thoughts went to last fall when I was in town and John, Bruce and I went for a ride. When John and I stopped at Bruces place we talked about our lives and how they were similar and how we were going through similar situations. Bruce gave me some inspiring words that life will get better and he was right, it has. Thanks Bruce! Bruce was proud to show me his saddle he bought for horse back riding. He had that big smile on his face like he always did when I was in town. Our thoughts and prayers are with everyone! We will see everyone when we get to town Saturday. Love all you guys! I will miss Bruce also! Your Wisconsin Brother, Ron
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roger
7/6/09 at 9:33 PM
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I am deeply saddened by this tragedy. Simply put, IT DID NOT NEED TO HAPPEN!!! I ride, and have been hit once, and in far too many close calls. We have a RIGHT to share the road, please recognize that right. Please PAY ATTENTION!!! My prayers go out to my fallen brothers and sister, may the roads in Heaven be smooth and free of hazard.
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Mike and Launa
7/6/09 at 8:20 PM
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My prayers go out to the Familys , Bruce was a Friend of mine, we only rode on occassion. when I wanted to have a toy run for secret santa for the Children he was there . He will be missed by a Lot of Brother Bikers. I hope that the person Responsable for this Negligent Action steps up to the plate and takes his punishment like a man . I also hope that the Law Will make a example out of this for Motorist That Have no respect for motor cycles . Bruce and Barb touched alot of harts in sidney ohio and we will pray for there familys and pray that Peter will get well soon NOT HAPPY CYCLIST
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john covelli
7/6/09 at 8:19 PM
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I was the lead bike in this group he missed us by inches The families and friends wish to thank all those that lent a helping hand and prayers also the squads and police and it wasnt ten minutes for rescue those people were there in in just a coupl of minutes i had just started working on barb when they were tapping me on the shoulder bruce was killed instantly i checked him first barb passed in the emergancy room pete is holding his own but seriously injured this was a sensless act by someone in a hurry and unfortunatly mr flowers will bear the brunt of his own actions but i can not find forgiveness in my heart for him right now my friends are injured and dead and never should have happened to all our friends in the area viewing for bruce will be at cromes in sidney from 3 to 8 services saturday at at 10 we will have a memorial ride after to 47 inn at port jefferson so bring your scooters once again thanks for the prayers and kindess you meet the nicest people during tragedy and the people of morgantown wer great thanks again john covelli
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outlaw
7/6/09 at 7:54 PM
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my heart goes out to everyone involved - i lost my family in a wreck a few years back and know what something like that does to so many - i worked with sam and can't believe with him being a truck driver and a biker that he would make a manuever like that
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David Putney
7/6/09 at 7:11 PM
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I have knew Bruce for many years he was a very good friend of mine. I really can't tell you how this makes me feel. Bruce was like a father to me. We had some of the best times that you could ever have together. I'm just praying that Pete Vaubel makes it ok. Lee if you read this give me a call man.

David Putney
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Em
7/6/09 at 7:09 PM
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Although we lived miles apart - Strangers until this day. I can't help but wonder why we met up on such a gorgeous day, in such a sad and tragic way! Yet I know angels were all around, even before that first teardrop hit the ground. I watched as the helicopter flew away changing the lives of so many that day. It is the ones left behind for whom we need to pray. Some have reached their heaven where everything is okay.. Sitting in traffic wondering, thinking, and saddened by how life is so abrupt. Sitting at home tonight and hoping I'll never be the driver of that truck! *My prayers for all*
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Rational Man
7/6/09 at 6:51 PM
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There is no such thing as an "accident" when you are dealing with motor vehicles. There are "crashes" or "collisions".

Crashes can always be traced back to some sort of violation of the motor vehicle laws. If there is no violation of the law by any driver, there are no wrecks, crashes, collisions or "accidents"

Think about this when you drive. If all drivers drive lawfully and safely there will be no "accidents"
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faith kail
7/6/09 at 6:10 PM
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I want to also say thanks to all of the people that pulled over ...not drove right by the scene or around the scene which makes me sick to my stomach...and actually tried to help untill the emergency responders arrived....
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faith kail
7/6/09 at 6:06 PM
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My prayers go out to the victims of this accident . It was a tragic one and I for one am not impressed with the response time of this accident . I was about 10-15 cars seconds litrally behind this accident . My sister, her 4 yr old son and I were traveling back home to columbus ohio from washington DC when this accident occurred. It was 30 min if not more before helicopters responded and atleast 10 minutes before any emergency vehicles state police etc. We did not know the severity of this accident and jokingly said I hope no one is injured because if so it sure is taking a long time for a emergency response they may or or not make it by time they arrive.Which I now feel so bad for even saying although a few min fin back up the rd a state trooper was writting out a ticket..I am not sure if I should have posted that here or not but I feel its right that everyone knows. If I offend anyone I am sorry did not mean to My sister was in a car accident not a bad one a couple months prior in almost the exact location and the response was within 5 min I hope and pray not many people get in an accident in WV.I would like to send flowers if at all possible for someone to email me with funeral home location and date and time of funeral for both victims my family sends prayers as well..
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shawn
7/6/09 at 5:47 PM
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W V STATE POLICE see people doing that crap all the time and do nothing!!!!!!its like i tell everyone i know,its like robbing a bank no camrea, no police why wouldnt you robe it. the person driving the blazer needs to be convicted of muder. what'you kill some one with a gun,knife or any other object thats muder? pulling out in front of some one doing an illegal "U"turn and wind up killing two people.if i was in the jury samuel flowers would'nt ever see day light again!!!!
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vanfossen clan
7/6/09 at 5:24 PM
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We the families of bruce and barb( the deceased) would like to thank all of those for their prayers and offers of help this was a tragic circumstance that happened and we will make it through together I was with them both on the trip and greatly appreciate the response of the emergency departments and hospital staff for their work in trying to save both bruce and barb and also prayers are with pete as he fights to recover from this situation everyone there from the troopers to just the person on the street and the folks at the scene were fantastic some offered water and food and any help to us that they could and we truly thank you our friends and family will be here to support us as we go on and carry their memories in our hearts and minds once again you meet the nicest people in the most tragic curcumstances and you all were fantastic thank you and just pray is all we can do now john covelli
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Sherry and Jerry
7/6/09 at 3:56 PM
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Our prayers go out to all the riders and their families. Will miss Bruce's smiling face and pray to see Petes very soon. To Lee and his sisters our thoughts are with you and our prayers for you. May God be with all of you.
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Webb's
7/6/09 at 2:52 PM
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Our thoughts and prayers go out to all families involved. We just recently started riding with Bruce and Barb and thought them wonderful people. Please everyone slow down, look, and listen. This tragedy did not have to happen. May God be with all of you.
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Lady
7/6/09 at 2:33 PM
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This was a senseless tragedy. We were there when the accident happened. My son witnessed more than I did. I know there was 2 little children in the SUV. I am hoping they are okay. My thoughts and prayers go out to the friends and families of those that were lost and injured. We ride as well and this has been an eye opening experience for me. It has made me see that without knowing it we take the simple things in life for granted. We need to see just how precious life really is.
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Monica Myers
7/6/09 at 2:11 PM
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I was at the scene of the accident yesterday.

It was so heartwrenching and my prayers are with the familys, the other bikers that were with them, and the college girl who was shaken up because she was almost involved.

My prayers are also with the family in the Jimmy, I know if somehow I was the cause of someone losing their life, I don't think I could live with myself..

I do need to say some things about what has been said here. The driver of the Jimmy changed his story a couple times in front of witnesses, so not sure when we will hear the final version. The children in the Jimmy were not being sheltered of the view of the accident at first, which bothered me since I have two little ones myself and I would not want them to have to see something like that. But, it is not my place to judge, our lord is the only one who can judge the situation.

After being there yesterday - I can't seem to get thoughts of this accident off my mind. I will be praying for everyone and I do have my whole church praying. God Be With You
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jason cummings
7/6/09 at 2:01 PM
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i have cried for the loss of a great couple of friends bruce and barb will truly be missed . but also for Pete and bubba and jamie, to have to go through this alone is over whelming but to be there man i am at a loss of words . Lee i am think of you bro, hang in there your dad is a tuff dude. and for the the guy in the gmc , you hang in there as well there will be alot of hatefull things said and done , bottom line it was and accident , even though it could have been avoided . I AM PRAYING FOR ALL .
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The Dude
7/6/09 at 12:11 PM
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"Accident" is not the correct term to use here as it implies that no one is at fault. The proper term would be "crash" or "collision" because there most certainly was someone at fault. Does he deserve all the hate that he is receiving on this board, maybe not, but he certainly deserves the blame for taking two lives.

The next time anyone is tempted to use one of these pull-offs to make a u-turn keep in mind that at going from a dead stop to 70 MPH takes time, even the fastest cars on the market today take at least 4-5 seconds to get up to that speed which means you need to allow nearly two football fields of distance between you and the nearest on-coming vehicle to avoid a collision. Just a little food for thought.
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7/6/09 at 11:59 AM
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did anyone else see this on WDTV's website? it states and I quote:

"We (WDTV) spoke with the driver of the SUV who claims a tailgater caused him to tap his brakes in the westbound lane. He then swerved into the left lane, where he collided with the two people on the motorcycle. Other witnesses at the scene say the SUV was driving west, when it attempted to make a U-turn, and that's when it hit the motorcycle that was heading east."

surely to goodness the driver of the GMC is not trying to blame someone else for his mistake??????????
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Fellow Biker
7/6/09 at 11:44 AM
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I too am saying lots of prayers for the families of those involved. I also ride a motorcycle and I believe there needs to be stiffer penalties for those whose careless actions cause others to lose their lives. We all need to write our legislature and ask them to enact new legislation that will make jail time mandatory for someone who takes the life of another when behind the wheel because of being not only careless, but breaking the law. I'm not sure you classify this as an "accident"...the driver of the GMC made a conscious decision to make an illegal u turn. Everyone needs to understand that when you get behind the wheel, you are responsible for the actions you chose...if you chose to do something irresponsible, then you must pay the penalty - no excuses. Malice or not, there are two people who lost their lives because of the actions that one driver chose. Maybe with stiffer penalties people will think twice before they chose to do something like this instead of trying to justify it by saying they were in a hurry or everyone else does it. It is much better to go those extra miles and be late than to have to live with the devastation you could and in this case did cause.
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saddened
7/6/09 at 11:10 AM
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Thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends of all involved. I see several mentions of a cell phone..yet I see nothing about one in the article. But I do see everyone ready to publicly beat down Mr. Flowers. I guess all of you writing these things have obeyed every rule of the road. I doubt it. Yes what he did was illegal, but I'm sure he didn't do it with malice. Hence the term Accident. It was probably a question of time...we all seem to think we don't have the extra minutes for safety. As far as dealing with this for the rest of his life I am sure he will, you don't be a part of something like this and be able to forget it. Not to defend his actions, but I have witnessed many use the emergency turn lane to do exactly what he did. I also must say that hating him won't help the victims family or your own hearts to heal.
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Carly in VA
7/6/09 at 10:57 AM
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We passed this accident going eastbound, shortly after it happened, on our way back to VA. In an instant, because of someone else's carelessness or mistake, one life is taken, many are changed forever for the worse. About 30 minutes earlier a woman (57-ish, could be your mom/grandma, supermarket checker) made a deliberate attempt to scare us and/or cause an accident by suddenly, heavily braking right in front of us for no reason. She was smiling as we drove around to pass her. People, relieve yourself of your anger and aggression before you get behind the wheel. Stay off of the cell phone. Discipline yourselves to concentrate on safe driving 100%. Our prayers to the families of the victims of this accident.
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Zee in Ohio
7/6/09 at 10:30 AM
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We passed this accident shortly after it occured, westbound, before ambulances had arrived and the scene was indeed very tragic. I have never seen anything like that and I hope those who witnessed that scene never make the same careless move that caused it to occur. This same type of accident occured in Cambridge, Ohio on Thursday. An elderly man made an illegal u-turn on the highway and a man lost his life, his wife seriously injured. My thoughts go out to all innocent parties involved. From what I'm reading, another victim has since passed. I hope swift justice is done; this situation could have been avoided if the SUV driver wouldn't have made that illegal move.
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jamie blon
7/6/09 at 10:09 AM
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It is a terrible tragedy. My prayers to the families and victims. My eldest son totalled two hHarleys in 2008. Both times it was cars pulling out in front of him. One of which ran a stop sign. The drivers of the vehicles always say it isnt their fault but it is. The last driver had the audacity to yell and cuss my son as he laid on the pavement injured. People need to put the cells away or at least pull off the road to talk. Nothing is as important as a life. They also need to realise it takes just as long to bring a bike to a stop as it does a car. These bikes weigh around a thousand pounds if not more. My entire family rides including me. We have to be very defensive drivers and even that seems not to be enough. Eye contact doesn't work. But I hope someone comes up with something that will. Non- violent please.
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Nikki
7/6/09 at 9:51 AM
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I almost agree with Betsy, to pray for all those involved; however, when you're at the scene and you know what happened, it's almost impossible to feel anything except anger at the driver who caused the accident. I do hope the passengers are okay, knowing they had no control over the actions of the driver; however I do not have any sympathy for the driver. My parents ride, I have lost a loved one due to someone else's COMPLETE & PREVENTABLE negligence and I do not feel any sympathy for the person responsible. To the families of the cyclists, my heart is with you and I hope for the best, even though I know nothing can help the feeling of loss.
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D&M
7/6/09 at 9:28 AM
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I was also behind this accident. I got stopped at Cheat Lake and we thought it was just traffic so we got off the exit and went around and later found out it was a wreck. Its so sad that this accident could have been prevented had the suv driver not been in such a hurry to get nowhere. We got back on the interstate at Pierpoint and some idiot was making a uturn in the emergeny pull off. Some people never learn! We need more law enforcement in this area. I hate even driving on 68 you hear about more accidents there than any where else. Its awful! My prayers go out all the people involved with this accident and there families.
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Tiffany Watkins
7/6/09 at 9:22 AM
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I pray for the family of the man in this tragic accident. This is a shock to all who knew him. I spent 4 wonderful years with this man, and though we had our moments and went our ways, we always talked 10 times a day no matter what. He was a hard man but no matter how hard he acted he was always the first to lend a helping hand to anyone. Even if he didn't know them. Please pray for all the others involved. I loved that man and always will. My heart goes out to the woman who was with him and her family. Not only did the driver of the GMC take lives, but he took, family, friends, parents, grandparents, role models, and may god be with the driver of that truck as his future path will be a long and hard road to walk on.
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BMT
7/6/09 at 8:32 AM
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Dear Betsy, my prayers are with you and your family through this very tragic time. My heart breaks for each and every one of you. God Bless you for your kind words about the 'Jimmy' driver and his family. You sound like a very lovable person to still ask for prayers for the 'Jimmy' driver even though you are the one that lost a loved one. I will continue to pray for all involved. Thank you again for being such a caring person. There should be more people in the world like you.
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jeremiah
7/6/09 at 8:29 AM
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I am very sorry for those hurt/dead in the accident. for some reason that part of 68 is deadly, its not the first and will not be the last.All drivers should be careful when on this part of 68, I live right beside this area and see people do dumb things here all the time I really don't understand its one of the nices parts of 68 and still one of the most deadly.
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Betsy Pleiman
7/6/09 at 8:24 AM
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We feel so numb for what happened to our uncle and his g- friend. His smile every morning was something we looked forward to. Thank you all for your prayers and support. Please pray for the "Jimmy" driver and his family as well. I'm pretty sure they too will have sleepless nights. God Bless all those involved and their families at home.
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Jeff
7/6/09 at 6:15 AM
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My cousin died last year as the result of a nearly identical accident. While the folks who ride motocycles are prepared to take the risks involved, those risks shouldn't include other drivers making thoughtless and illegal moves. The elderly woman who caused my cousin's accident got her license taken away, but to my knowledge didn't even get ticketed for making an illegal U-turn. Meanwhile the world lost a wonderful person. It saddens me to know that this might be the outcome again...the loss of a good person at the hands of stupidity. That's just not right.
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mel
7/6/09 at 6:09 AM
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Isn't it illegal to make a U-turn at those emergency pull-off spots. You know the ones where the police sits, that is in the medium of the highway? Last time I checked it was. My prayers goes out to all.
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john
7/6/09 at 3:57 AM
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I was in the group it is 4 am and just got home 2 people were killed 1 fighting for his life this driver missed us by inches there was no phone in his hand I saw him in the eyes he did not even slow down to cut across and my friends had no chance at all . all we can do now is pray this is a terrible waste and we will be pushing for manslaughter or murder trust me he will pay for this I will guarantee that.. everyone at the scene we thank you very much for your kindess and help even at the hospital people were asking us if we needed anything not just staff but just people off the street thank you for the prayers the familiies will need them the injured cyclist looks like he will make it but he is in very serious condition and will take a long time to heal
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Terry
7/6/09 at 3:55 AM
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First let me say that all our prayers go out to the family of the victims, God bless you in such a terrible time. I think it's time for the state of WV to put more troopers on our highways people have little respect for our posted speed limits and traffic laws.I ride a motorcycle and the way people drive up and down 79 and across 68 is very dangerous but on a typical weekend saturday ride seldom see a trooper and if you do he's doing 85 in the passing lane setting a great example. Traffic laws are useless unless there are officers there to enforce them. Maybe if there had been a trooper patrolling I-68( always heavy weekend traffic) the driver of the Jimmy would of had to go to the exit to turn around. Joe Manchin is always tooting his own horn about the econmic health of our state lets get some more troopers out there doing there job protecting the motoring public,espically those of us on two wheels. In closing again let me say to the family of the victims my deepest condolences May God Bless and comfort you.To the driver of the Jimmy I hope you have plenty of time to think about what you have done in a 4x8 cell. Maybe they have a opening there at Coopers Rock.
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Chris
7/6/09 at 2:00 AM
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This accident is tragic and didn't need to happen. We have loss of life, critical injuries that no knows if they will recover fully if at all. Then for all the other people who witnessed this. They will have nightmares for a long time. This will live on and be around longer then anyone could imagine for those that will suffer what they saw and lived through as witness of this tragedy. All for someone who couldn't take the time to go up to the next exit. Its a sad sad day for family of all those who are effected from this. My heart goes out to the 15 year old girl who no longer has a mom. Although it's difficult today to see beyond the sorrow, May looking back in memory help comfort you tomorrow.
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Brian
7/6/09 at 1:04 AM
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I was 20 yards behind the motorcyclist who passed. The scene was truly tragic and I pray that the survivors will fully recover. The impact is a scene that I will never forget. I and my family are praying for those injured and their friends and family.
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Josh Covelli
7/6/09 at 12:27 AM
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My mom and dad were traveling with that group and the guy that died was a very very good friend of the family... I will never be able to describe the ways he was able to help me... and to the driver of the GMC.. if you read this... I hope not only the courts do their worst... but the nightmares and the guilt eat at your heart forever....
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jim
7/6/09 at 12:13 AM
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how can people be this stupid. to make a u-turn in the middle of the highway, top speed when you hit the FAST lane is what, 10 mph. everyone else is doing 70 mph. i hope something more than a ticket is issued.
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Krista, Allie, & Dee
7/5/09 at 11:44 PM
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Hey, CARELESS GMC, driver how do you tell a 15 year old girl that her mother will not be coming home? This young lady lost her father in a car accident and now she has no mother. We lost two wonderful friends and one is fighting for his life. Our prayers go to all family and friends.
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sharon vanfossen
7/5/09 at 11:38 PM
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My brother-in-law was the one who lost his life as well as his girlfriend.As painful as this is, it is comforting to have so many people keeping all of us in your prayers. Thank-you. Your prayers will help us get thru this horrible pain
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DeAnn
7/5/09 at 11:08 PM
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My Bro and sis-in-law were seconds in front of Bruce before he and barb were hit. John my bro, made eye contact with the driver and yet the driver still pulled out. Today we lost a fine man, a father and mother as Barb has passed also, a Brother and Sister, a Son and Daughter, respectable business owner in our community and wonderful friends. John and Susan my bro and sister in law will have their 25th wedding anniversary July 15 without Johns Best Friend. Please, Please, Please pass the word to watch for cycles. Prayers for the families and friends are appreciated. Yes, there is anger with the driver, but please remember we are all human and all make mistakes. We should not judge as we will all meet our God who will take care of that. Again Thanks for your thoughts and prayers to the family and friends to get through this.
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my friends
7/5/09 at 10:54 PM
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To the GMC driver...you took the life of a dear friend and his girlfriend...my other friend is fighting for his life may GOD be with him right now...and his girlfriend whom is also in serious condition. to the rest of my friends with them that had to witness that terrible wreck that could have been avoided...all your THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS are with you all your friends back home!!!!!!!
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junidy3boyz
7/5/09 at 10:52 PM
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My prayers go out to those motorcyclists involved in this CRASH (IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT WHEN YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL). My mother and father who were on a bike were involved in a CRASH right around that same place about 7 years ago and were hit by an 80 year old woman who decided to do the same thing. They both survived, thank God, but still suffer from physical impairments. The old lady got some stupid ticket and it was her second accident in a 2 week period. People need to pay attention.
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Callie
7/5/09 at 10:44 PM
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I was on 68 at the time of the accident, and did not know what had really happened until I was able to check on the internet. I am so sad for the families that will be going through this tragic time. They will be in my thoughts and prayers. I also wanted to comment about the idiots I saw today...I was stopped near exit 10. I knew immediately it had to have been a serious accident and not just normal holiday traffic, so with that in mind I was worried about how bad it was, when I was almost hit not by someone behind me, but by the person in front of me who did a 3point turn and went the WRONG way down the ramp. SERIOUSLY?! Of course a series of idiots also followed. As if the accident which already cost people their lives was not bad enough, we had to deal with impatient people who did not think enough about the people dying only how long they would have to sit and wait. Why would you want to risk driving the WRONG WAY down a ramp?! An unsuspecting motorist traveling the RIGHT way down the ramp could have easily been hit by one of the SEVERAL people who decided to risk more lives today.
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Maria
7/5/09 at 10:30 PM
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My brother and sister in law were part of this motocycle party - returning home from DC after going to honor those in wars. The man that died was a very dear friend of our family and well known in the community - not just another nameless face. We'll miss you B - you were an amazing person who brought joy to so many people. I don't personally know the other two who were hurt in the accident, but if they were part of this group - then I know they too are great people!! Though I'm thankful that my family was not injured physically, I know that this senseless accident will affect them in so many other ways. Love to the families...and peace to their hearts!
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Lisa
7/5/09 at 10:23 PM
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This was a very preventable accident and SHOULD NOT of happened!!!! Can not believe that the SUV had something that important that he had to use the emergency pull-off to turn around!!!!! Now innocent people are dead and one in serious condition. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! Prayers go out to all the motorcycle riders involved and their families......
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Dot
7/5/09 at 10:20 PM
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Want to know what makes me ill? I was going through around 2:00, and had to take the Pierpont exit to Cheat Lake to get back on I-68 East. When I drove down the road parallel to the interstate and accident, there were cars pulled off the road on both sides so travel was slow and difficult, and there were gawkers standing along the road, with their cell phones pointed at the accident scene, snapping pictures of the stretchers on the road and being loaded in the helicopters. Even a jeep wrangler with no top, with 2 children around ages 8-10, hanging out the top watching the scene. Even as I type this, more than 8 hours later, I am still incredulous. Speechless. Unbelievable.
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g
7/5/09 at 10:02 PM
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More than one dead. My sister-in-law died in the accident and it makes me very angry, especially since the driver looks to be lying and will not own up to his mistake.
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Barry Bledsoe
7/5/09 at 9:54 PM
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This accident is totally senseless and unacceptable. There is absolutely NO REASON that the driver of this vehicle had to make a u-turn, rather than spend a few minutes going to the next exit to turn around. Now, and innocent motorcyclist is dead, and two others are in the hospital.

I ride a motorcycle, and often with groups. It is amazing the lack of care that so many drivers in cars and trucks give to bikers.

And I agree with "me first"...I bet they gave his cell phone back. To the Jimmy driver, I ask...did you save any time by making that illegal u-turn? You sure didn't save any lives!!!
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Nikki
7/5/09 at 9:46 PM
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Let me just say this, I was right behind the accident after it happened, luckily we took Pierpont to avoid traffic, we, along with others stopped along side of the road and it was a horrific scene...I was scared because my parents ride bikes and one looked like my mother's...I just hope the driver of the green gmc jimmy pays for the illegal u-turn he made because he took away something that prison will just not justify....to the families, my thoughts & prayers are with you, to the injured motorcycle riders/drivers, may God be with you and I wish you the best of luck in recovery, this is something that was preventable and I,of all people understand what it's like to live through a tragedy such as a motorcycle wreck...and lose someone...My Prayers Be With you
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me first
7/5/09 at 8:44 PM
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Let me guess the rest, no citations were issued, and the cell phone was returned the gmc driver
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eric germain
7/5/09 at 8:41 PM
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hello

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